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Offline dakazman

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S1 Wiring Harness - Wall of shame
« on: Monday,December 23, 2024, 09:10:49 AM »
  Not always The Prince of Darkness fault!
 
   I started a build board for this S1 so I could document ,clean and repair it.
This is what I found while unwrapping it from layers of tape.
  Now to identify them with the wiring diagram schematic.
 It’s surprisingly much less of a harness.
 Dakazman

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Re: S1 Wiring Harness - Wall of shame
« Reply #1 on: Monday,December 23, 2024, 10:56:03 AM »
Not a surprise. My S1 had a pretty sad harness when I replaced it in 2005. Looks like lots of PO repairs, splices, etc.

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Re: S1 Wiring Harness - Wall of shame
« Reply #2 on: Monday,December 23, 2024, 12:52:02 PM »
David,  you may already have this schematic that Ray Bisordi put together years ago for the S1.  If not, here it is.

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Re: S1 Wiring Harness - Wall of shame
« Reply #3 on: Monday,December 23, 2024, 03:24:28 PM »
 S1,Thank You, I do, and I have simplified each circuit Individually..
  Now' I'll be able to give the measurements of the individual wire runs, strand and colors, to and from.
 I will work off that schematic and add the connectors as needed. It will hopefully stop the twisting of wires at the light assemblies.
 Dakazman

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Re: S1 Wiring Harness - Wall of shame
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday,December 25, 2024, 05:57:13 AM »
Are you repairing it Dakazman - or duplicating it with new wires?

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« Reply #5 on: Wednesday,December 25, 2024, 06:45:32 PM »
  Dilkis,  dunno, right now just cleaning, labeling and identifying and comparing it to the S1 schematic.  Then remove the additional runs the PO’s added. I have oil pressure and oil temp gauges.  It does have the optional reverse light wires in tunnel area.  I may add a wire color addition to the steering column connector that is not identified.
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Re: S1 Wiring Harness - Wall of shame
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday,December 25, 2024, 07:02:59 PM »
Just a reminder that the proper flavors of wires can be had at http://www.britishwiring.com/.

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« Reply #7 on: Thursday,December 26, 2024, 12:13:13 AM »
At $695 for a new wiring harness for a S1 - I think Dakazman's approach is the way to go.   

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Re: S1 Wiring Harness - Wall of shame
« Reply #8 on: Thursday,December 26, 2024, 04:57:28 PM »
 My S1 and Dilkris,
  Correct your amp meter + brown wire off alternator to BW when working off the S1 schematic.
  Then a small correction, label the courtesy light assembly on rear bulkhead.
  BDA, thanks for posting that site, buying by the meter is better than 100ft  rolls , solid colors only .  I’ll see what the shipping costs is but it shouldn’t be that bad.
  Labeled most of the harness today and rearranging the board , it seems the main fuses and back further in the car than the S2’s , where is the main fuse box?

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« Reply #9 on: Friday,December 27, 2024, 12:33:12 AM »
You are doing well - and your soldering/heat shrink and cable wrapping skills will improve 10 fold!!
I'm looking forward to this part of the journey myself.

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Re: S1 Wiring Harness - Wall of shame
« Reply #10 on: Friday,December 27, 2024, 05:31:53 AM »
At $695 for a new wiring harness for a S1 - I think Dakazman's approach is the way to go.   

Depends on what your time is worth (or what you're paid IRL).  Of course, if any of us really totaled up the time we spend on these beasts and put a monetary amount per hour against it, I'm pretty sure it would be shocking.

(I know what I charge consulting customers for an hour of my time in my practice space...)
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Re: S1 Wiring Harness - Wall of shame
« Reply #11 on: Friday,December 27, 2024, 07:08:08 AM »
   At $695 for a new wiring harness for a S1 - I think Dakazman's approach is the way to go.   
   
   I think $695 is a fair price. If with all the connections done, even better.

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Re: S1 Wiring Harness - Wall of shame
« Reply #12 on: Friday,December 27, 2024, 08:31:38 AM »
[ it seems the main fuses and back further in the car than the S2’s , where is the main fuse box?

Dakazman
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On my S1 fuse box was in the engine bay I think. I rewired car 20 years ago and moved it up front due to S2 wiring harness.

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Re: S1 Wiring Harness - Wall of shame
« Reply #13 on: Friday,December 27, 2024, 11:15:12 AM »
If the question is: Where is the fuse block located in a Series 1 Europa? The answer is: it located in the engine compartment adjacent to the right-rear wheel. Close by are the voltage regulator and the ignition coil.

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Re: S1 Wiring Harness - Wall of shame
« Reply #14 on: Friday,December 27, 2024, 01:14:00 PM »
Make sure to eliminate all of those bullets and snap terminals if you value your time. They might as well have been designed to attract moisture and corrode. Even simple spade terminals are miles ahead, though ideally something designed to keep out water like those Deutsch connectors - the knockoffs are still quite good.

If you must keep the bullets for whatever reason...slather the whole joint in dielectric grease.