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Offline Hachille

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Re: Cannot find a thread, Industrial plastic balls for door hinge repair?
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday,December 11, 2024, 10:55:22 AM »
I don't know what you asked them, of course.  But the part is very general-purpose and I'm not surprised if they don't know how to help you apply it to your Europa.  They could still answer you.  Maybe they're like the British suppliers though.  Most are kind of helpful if you're about to order.  Otherwise, forget it.

When I get to it and figure out how to get the door off, I'll have some questions for Hachille.  I don't really understand how he has them mounted.  I suppose I could figure something out, but would like to benefit from his experience.

Google translate was only so helpful though when it gave him "Be careful, you have to be empty or there are red arrows." !  I know all those words, but I sure don't know what that means!  :-)

Below is the page detailing the part, -12 being the specific one.

Hello
This means that the ball joint must be able to move up or down. The red arrows show that the space is available to move up or down.
When using a 26mm cone 2 drill bit, you get a tight fit with the igubal ball joint. It is possible to push it in and it will no longer slip. The igubal ball joint has a diameter of 26.1mm.
By using a new drill bit and a 17mm socket to turn it, it is the outside of the socket which is +-25mm that centers the drilling. The drill bit is between the two drillings.
I hope my translation is correct

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Re: Cannot find a thread, Industrial plastic balls for door hinge repair?
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday,December 11, 2024, 12:05:34 PM »
Look at McMaster-Carr  1071K25  looks very similar if not the same.
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Re: Cannot find a thread, Industrial plastic balls for door hinge repair?
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday,December 11, 2024, 01:58:19 PM »
Pic ….
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Re: Cannot find a thread, Industrial plastic balls for door hinge repair?
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday,December 11, 2024, 02:58:47 PM »
There are more pictures from Hachille on page 67 of my build thread for TCST because I had questions too!
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Re: Cannot find a thread, Industrial plastic balls for door hinge repair?
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday,December 11, 2024, 03:59:29 PM »
Ah, McMaster.
I failed when I looked there.
Local will be simpler.

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Re: Cannot find a thread, Industrial plastic balls for door hinge repair?
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday,December 11, 2024, 04:14:49 PM »
Apparently I am really bad at search.
I cannot find pics of this on page 67 of your thread, or am I looking in the wrong place?

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Re: Cannot find a thread, Industrial plastic balls for door hinge repair?
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday,December 11, 2024, 04:27:12 PM »
Richard,
I have mine set up to show newest post to oldest so it may be in reverse order  :confused: it is on page 7 in the oldest to newest chronology.

Sorry for any confusion  ::)
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Re: Cannot find a thread, Industrial plastic balls for door hinge repair?
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday,December 11, 2024, 05:13:49 PM »
Igubal sells directly in the US, I see.  Their US base is in Rhode Island.

https://www.igus.com/product/igubal-KGLM

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Re: Cannot find a thread, Industrial plastic balls for door hinge repair?
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday,December 11, 2024, 06:03:13 PM »
Richard:  here are the posts that T-fource is referring to:
https://www.lotuseuropa.org/LotusForum/index.php?topic=4034.msg44783#msg44783

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Re: Cannot find a thread, Industrial plastic balls for door hinge repair?
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday,December 11, 2024, 10:22:25 PM »
I made an effort to translate the text of the assembly drawing.
Some words did not translate well.

Montage porte ibre en hauteur Mounting the door ibre in height (ibre?)

Bleu : Porte Blue: Door

Noir : Coque Black: Hull

Rotule plastique Igubal Igubal plastic ball joint

En plastique technique Made of engineering plastic

Rondelle fine 8 End washers 8

Rondelle epaisse 8 Thick washer 8

Jeux de reglage Adjustment Sets

Montage port fixe en hauteur Fixed port mounting at height

Insere de coque inferieur Lower shell insert

Cale de position pour la hauteur de la porte Position wedge for door height

Adjustment serre  adjustment greenhouse

Cale de hauteur En plastique technicque  Height wedge Made of technical plastic

Now, is the other plastic component sold or something I need to make myself?
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Re: Cannot find a thread, Industrial plastic balls for door hinge repair?
« Reply #25 on: Thursday,December 12, 2024, 02:55:39 AM »
Montage porte ibre en hauteur Mounting the door ibre in height (ibre?)

'ibre' seems to be a victim of JPEG compression and should read 'libre' -> 'free or freely'. It means that the upper door mount is not restricting the vertical positioning of the door. The green part of the ball bearing is able to slide on the purple coloured insert.

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Re: Cannot find a thread, Industrial plastic balls for door hinge repair?
« Reply #26 on: Thursday,December 12, 2024, 04:08:59 AM »
Hachille, what is the part sticking through the door and one is covered with the rubber cover?
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Re: Cannot find a thread, Industrial plastic balls for door hinge repair?
« Reply #27 on: Thursday,December 12, 2024, 11:00:25 AM »
I made an effort to translate the text of the assembly drawing.
Some words did not translate well.

Montage porte ibre en hauteur Mounting the door ibre in height (ibre?)= Nockenwelle's translation is perfect
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Bleu : Porte Blue: Door = Yes

Noir : Coque Black: Hull = This is the bodywork. So the fixed part relative to the door.

Rotule plastique Igubal Igubal plastic ball joint

En plastique technique Made of engineering plastic= It is a plastic that has good mechanical quality. PA6 for example

Rondelle fine 8 End washers 8 = example:M8 x 22 x 1.5
 


Rondelle epaisse 8 Thick washer 8 =example:M8 x 30x 5

Jeux de reglage Adjustment Sets = empty space to move the M8 screw

Montage port fixe en hauteur Fixed port mounting at height = the assembly of the part at the bottom of the door, fixes the height position of the door

Insere de coque inferieur Lower shell insert = It is the aluminum part "Bobins" which is in the fiberglass

Cale de position pour la hauteur de la porte Position wedge for door height = It is a plastic part (PA6 for example), which must be custom-made to obtain the correct height position of the door.

Adjustment serre  adjustment greenhouse = With a S1=Light door. There is no need to fix the ball joint in the door. This is the advantage of it being plastic which can have a tight fit. Probably the same for an S2

Cale de hauteur En plastique technicque  Height wedge Made of technical plastic = 11mm for my car. maybe 10 for yours. Et PA6

Now, is the other plastic component sold or something I need to make myself= Yes make myself?

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Re: Cannot find a thread, Industrial plastic balls for door hinge repair?
« Reply #28 on: Thursday,December 12, 2024, 11:19:28 AM »
Hachille, what is the part sticking through the door and one is covered with the rubber cover?
the aluminum part holds the rubber part. The rubber part must be cut so that the door when fully opened crushes the 2 rubbers at the same time.

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Re: Cannot find a thread, Industrial plastic balls for door hinge repair?
« Reply #29 on: Thursday,December 12, 2024, 12:30:17 PM »
So they aren’t really part of the pivots?
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