Author Topic: Axles for NG3?  (Read 3965 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline TurboFource

  • Super Member
  • *******
  • Joined: Sep 2019
  • Location: Maryland
  • Posts: 2,180
Re: Axles for NG3?
« Reply #15 on: Friday,March 29, 2024, 12:04:22 PM »
Here ya go Gavin ....
RN-8049 only Renault ones I could find in stock here ... for a 83-84 Renault Alliance right side axles .. they were $49 each on RockAuto ...

cheap enough to hack up ???
The more I do the more I find I need to do....remember your ABC’s …anything but chinesium!

Offline jbcollier

  • Super Member
  • *******
  • Joined: Nov 2013
  • Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
  • Posts: 5,978
Re: Axles for NG3?
« Reply #16 on: Friday,March 29, 2024, 12:44:36 PM »
Do they have holes for the retaining pins?  Do they line up?

Offline TurboFource

  • Super Member
  • *******
  • Joined: Sep 2019
  • Location: Maryland
  • Posts: 2,180
Re: Axles for NG3?
« Reply #17 on: Friday,March 29, 2024, 02:03:42 PM »
JB,
They do have holes, I will try to see sometime this weekend how well they line up.
The more I do the more I find I need to do....remember your ABC’s …anything but chinesium!

Offline jbcollier

  • Super Member
  • *******
  • Joined: Nov 2013
  • Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
  • Posts: 5,978
Re: Axles for NG3?
« Reply #18 on: Friday,March 29, 2024, 02:17:20 PM »
Thanks!

Offline TurboFource

  • Super Member
  • *******
  • Joined: Sep 2019
  • Location: Maryland
  • Posts: 2,180
Re: Axles for NG3?
« Reply #19 on: Saturday,March 30, 2024, 04:57:42 AM »
It looks like the pin holes are off about a hole diameter ... with a mill, edge finder, DRO, v-block and careful measuring you might be able to turn it 90 degrees and drill new holes exactly where you need them. I don't have these things and the holes would probably be off enough to involve the use of a Dremel tool and carbide burr anyway (or drill the hole oversize). So why not layout the needed position and elongate the existing holes with that Dremel :confused: Not an elegant solution but an effective one. And the hole even needs elongated in the direction that will keep things secured  ;) You could seal things to keep the elements out ..

I am just glad to find splines that fit the output shafts :) Now the other end of the axles will be a new adventure for a later date as I have a Lotus to get running!!
« Last Edit: Saturday,March 30, 2024, 04:13:21 PM by TurboFource »
The more I do the more I find I need to do....remember your ABC’s …anything but chinesium!

Offline Kendo

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Joined: Jul 2015
  • Location: Northern California
  • Posts: 635
Re: Axles for NG3?
« Reply #20 on: Saturday,March 30, 2024, 06:40:21 AM »
Were you planning to use a twin link? Then you wouldn’t need pins. You’d catch a case of shipwright’s disease though.

Offline TurboFource

  • Super Member
  • *******
  • Joined: Sep 2019
  • Location: Maryland
  • Posts: 2,180
Re: Axles for NG3?
« Reply #21 on: Saturday,March 30, 2024, 06:52:39 AM »
Kendo,
At some point I will ....
The more I do the more I find I need to do....remember your ABC’s …anything but chinesium!

Offline TurboFource

  • Super Member
  • *******
  • Joined: Sep 2019
  • Location: Maryland
  • Posts: 2,180
Re: Axles for NG3?
« Reply #22 on: Saturday,March 30, 2024, 07:07:36 AM »
Got this adapter too … with some Toyota pattern ….
The more I do the more I find I need to do....remember your ABC’s …anything but chinesium!

Offline jbcollier

  • Super Member
  • *******
  • Joined: Nov 2013
  • Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
  • Posts: 5,978
Re: Axles for NG3?
« Reply #23 on: Saturday,March 30, 2024, 01:37:32 PM »
Those inner, tripod joints have no retainer other than the rubber boot.  The joints have to be retained on the shaft.

Offline dakazman

  • Super Member
  • *******
  • Joined: Jun 2016
  • Location: Florida
  • Posts: 4,230
Re: Axles for NG3?
« Reply #24 on: Saturday,March 30, 2024, 01:52:31 PM »
  Great work Turbo, Keep posting your progress. :trophy: :beerchug:
  Maybe for my next build though.
  Dakazman

Offline GavinT

  • Super Member
  • *******
  • Joined: Oct 2016
  • Location: Queensland, Oz
  • Posts: 1,228
Re: Axles for NG3?
« Reply #25 on: Saturday,March 30, 2024, 06:30:29 PM »
Cheers, Turbo.

Drat . . I don't think we got the Renault Alliance in Oz.
How are they for length? When going down this rabbit hole, I usually get hung up on the stock axle length and if it needs custom axles, it's invariably expensive. There seems to be lots of different VW axle lengths available at reasonable prices so I wonder of they might fit - 33 tooth spline?

Offline GavinT

  • Super Member
  • *******
  • Joined: Oct 2016
  • Location: Queensland, Oz
  • Posts: 1,228
Re: Axles for NG3?
« Reply #26 on: Saturday,March 30, 2024, 06:36:47 PM »

So why not layout the needed position and elongate the existing holes with that Dremel :confused:


Or...

Drill and ream the Alliance output flange holes to ~10mm (or your favourite imperial dimension) as long as it covers both holes.
Machine up a couple of press fit discs to suit the new holes.
Insert one disc and drill it from the opposite side using the output shaft as the drill guide bush.
Insert the second disc and drill it similarly - from the opposite side.
TIG zap the disc perimeters to the flange in a couple of places to retain.

Wouldn't that work?

Offline TurboFource

  • Super Member
  • *******
  • Joined: Sep 2019
  • Location: Maryland
  • Posts: 2,180
Re: Axles for NG3?
« Reply #27 on: Saturday,March 30, 2024, 06:46:49 PM »
Yes?
The more I do the more I find I need to do....remember your ABC’s …anything but chinesium!

Offline TurboFource

  • Super Member
  • *******
  • Joined: Sep 2019
  • Location: Maryland
  • Posts: 2,180
Re: Axles for NG3?
« Reply #28 on: Saturday,March 30, 2024, 06:52:25 PM »
Gavin found this online …..
The more I do the more I find I need to do....remember your ABC’s …anything but chinesium!

Offline kram350kram

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Joined: Dec 2019
  • Location: Georgia
  • Posts: 471
Re: Axles for NG3?
« Reply #29 on: Saturday,March 30, 2024, 07:31:13 PM »
Prototype axle retention attempt without using a 3rd link. Revised this set up with a 300lbs spring under constant tension, same connection points.