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Offline TurboFource

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Alternative battery mounting location?
« on: Friday,August 25, 2023, 04:10:45 AM »
It seems to me mounting a 38lb battery at shoulder height is not an optimal choice from a physics standpoint.
I am thinking of mounting it low behind the passenger (LHD car) to offset driver weight or maybe in the front,
but then there would probably be no room for the spare if I decide to carry one. Has anyone relocated their battery
and if so, do you have any pics?

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Re: Alternative battery mounting location?
« Reply #1 on: Friday,August 25, 2023, 09:02:22 AM »
Well, Here is what I would suggest and it is airplane certified and weighs 4 lbs.  It works great with a 80 amp alternator, although I never flattened the battery and charged it at 80 amps.  The most I have ever seen is 30 amps charging.

There was a whole discussion of this previously.

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Re: Alternative battery mounting location?
« Reply #2 on: Friday,August 25, 2023, 09:27:36 AM »
One thing to consider with the Europa, of course, is not that the battery is mounted high, but that the shoulder is mounted low.  ;)

I agree that the height of the battery mounting is not ideal in terms of keeping the C of G low, though I would think that moving it to the front (spare tire area) is a less desirable location in terms of weight distribution and car handling. Though the battery may be mounted a bit high, the mass is close to the centre of the car, which is best for quick and accurate 'turn-in' and lively handling. Mounting it ahead of the front wheels may induce understeer and generally retard the car's handling 'quickness'.

I've been giving some thought myself, to the battery's solid lump of mass and its effect on such a lightweight car. A couple months ago I was looking into lithium batteries as a replacement for the lead-acid monster. It is not inconceivable for a lithium battery to be 30 lbs lighter than the current battery. This would have a beneficial effect on C of G (even when mounted in its normal location) and is a significant overall weight reduction for the car. The lithium batteries are also much smaller, solving another pain-in-the-butt which is needing to remove the header tank, etc to get the current battery out of its hole.

I need to renew my investigation on this matter. One disadvantage is cost. Lituium batteries can run to $500. Performance particulars of lithium still need to be investigated to assess its suitability for a road car, but my initial findings are quite positive.

If anyone has any lithium battery experience or thoughts, I would love to hear it.

[edit:] I see Mr Pfreen has beaten me to it. This looks like a nice solution.

« Last Edit: Friday,August 25, 2023, 09:31:02 AM by Bainford »
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Re: Alternative battery mounting location?
« Reply #3 on: Friday,August 25, 2023, 01:31:12 PM »
When I got my car the battery was up front.
Former owner said the car was too light in the nose.
I will not be putting it back there, if only because I despise having the 12v battery cables running through the tunnel next to my shift linkage.
I will use the smallest battery that will do the job.
I am fitting a second tank and have twin Webers so space is at a premium.
Not sure where it will end up, but near the right side tail lamp is looking likely.

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Re: Alternative battery mounting location?
« Reply #4 on: Friday,August 25, 2023, 02:33:11 PM »
I may (in order to get this thing on the road and revisit this later) use a 350CCA U1 lawn tractor battery I have, mounted in the stock location. People use them to start V8s and it weighs half of what the original battery weighs.
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Re: Alternative battery mounting location?
« Reply #5 on: Friday,August 25, 2023, 03:59:02 PM »
The lithium battery replaced an Odyssey gel cell battery with about the same dimensions as the lithium but it weighed about 13 pounds.
It started the car fine as well

Btw, I also had a regular battery up the front with long cables, which weigh a lot, and I also had a smaller flooded cell battery in the rear right fender under the trunk insert.

I am finally happy with the lithium battery, but it isn't cheap.

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Re: Alternative battery mounting location?
« Reply #6 on: Friday,August 25, 2023, 06:20:13 PM »
I think for now I will try the U1 I paid $35 for and saves 19lbs of weight….Lithium
will hopefully happen in the future.
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Re: Alternative battery mounting location?
« Reply #7 on: Saturday,August 26, 2023, 07:31:46 AM »
I used a Honda Fit (Jazz in Europe) battery,made a plywood /epoxy box bolted to the inner fender, battery held in with a seatbelt clasp. The neg goes to a disconnect by the license plate. The pos is sleeved in red pex tube in the rear frame. I moved the battery to more easily fit my fire suppression ,activated by a pull by my left knee.

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Re: Alternative battery mounting location?
« Reply #8 on: Saturday,August 26, 2023, 07:48:18 AM »
I used a Deka ETX20, under 15 lbs and starts a 3.5L V6 fine. Mines mounted just above the ground
near the fuel tank. These were $90 a few years ago. https://www.amazon.com/Deka-Power-Sports-ETX20L-Battery/dp/B0026H3CB4