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Re: Another S2 adventure, 742R, Carnival red and "Running".
« Reply #75 on: Saturday,February 17, 2024, 08:11:38 PM »
Nice job!  :beerchug:

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Re: Another S2 adventure, 742R, Carnival red and "Running".
« Reply #76 on: Saturday,February 17, 2024, 09:00:56 PM »
Decent enough I suppose.
Been wasting some time trying to find a more malleable stainless to make my own transfer tubes.
Found some hints that 301 annealed or 1/4 hard might be the ticket, but no clue where to buy any of it reasonably nearby.
There are also annealing services, far away, and the cost of shipping is truly insane.
Need my MM PU on the road so that I can just drive to the industrial area of LA to pick it up.

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Re: Another S2 adventure, 742R, Carnival red and "Running".
« Reply #77 on: Wednesday,February 21, 2024, 04:40:36 PM »
New trailing arm mounts, done.
New engine mounts, done.
New transmission mount, ordered months ago and just shipped so still waiting.
Not the worst jobs to do once the correct tools are figured out.
Access inside the frame is 'Interesting' and I will never reuse old bolts and nuts.
Now to make myself a tool for removing springs from shocks.

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Re: Another S2 adventure, 742R, Carnival red and "Running".
« Reply #78 on: Wednesday,February 21, 2024, 06:13:30 PM »
I used an exhaust flange I had laying around to Fabricobble one ….
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Re: Another S2 adventure, 742R, Carnival red and "Running".
« Reply #79 on: Wednesday,February 21, 2024, 06:24:39 PM »
Cutting a slot and a couple of holes in a piece of heavy plate I have.
Holes in some square stock at the bottom.
Threaded rod to compress.
Only expect to use it for this one set.

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Re: Another S2 adventure, 742R, Carnival red and "Running".
« Reply #80 on: Thursday,February 22, 2024, 04:13:17 AM »
  Great idea guys, I’ll put this in my bookmarks.
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Re: Another S2 adventure, 742R, Carnival red and "Running".
« Reply #81 on: Thursday,February 22, 2024, 03:14:42 PM »
Got both the old SPAX shocks apart and one is junk.
So now on the hunt for replacements.
Not certain AVO are currently available.
Protech have no listing on their site.
No luck finding GAZ part numbers.
Which seems to leave SPAX as the only readily available option?

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Re: Another S2 adventure, 742R, Carnival red and "Running".
« Reply #82 on: Thursday,February 22, 2024, 05:10:16 PM »
I got my Protech shocks from SJSportscars and I like them. They are kind of pretty to put them under the car! The front shocks take 1.9" springs, same as the rears.

I had Spax before and didn't realize they were providing no dampening till I took them off and compressed them by hand. I don't remember how long I had them (but they were old enough that the Spax tech support people couldn't tell me how many clicks of adjustment they had) so I can't say that Spax are bad. If you want to go the Spax route, r.d. sells them. If you plan on using the stock front springs, r.d.'s Spax have the spring perches for the larger springs. They can also be had with perches for 1.9" springs (maybe from Dave Bean?).

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Re: Another S2 adventure, 742R, Carnival red and "Running".
« Reply #83 on: Thursday,February 22, 2024, 06:18:08 PM »
Are you using original springs or shorter so that ride height may be adjusted?
SJ says to use SJ046D0004 for S2's but does not seem to have them as an option for their cart.  :confused:
Price seems significantly less than SPAX.

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Re: Another S2 adventure, 742R, Carnival red and "Running".
« Reply #84 on: Thursday,February 22, 2024, 08:42:39 PM »
Keep in mind I have a TCS. I'm running 10" front springs and 14" rear springs. All my spring perches are all the way down. My ride height is a bit higher than I would like but it's not objectionable (and certainly not worth the cost of four new springs at least at the moment). Of course, my only adjustment would be to make the ride height higher which I don't want and that is my only complaint with these springs.

My advice would be to get 8" front springs and 12" rear springs so that you'd be able to have some adjustment. As I say, Keep in mind I have a TCS. IIRC, up to some year (through type 54?) the ride height had not been bastardized for headlight height requirements.

You didn't mention spring rates... That is a whole 'nother conversation. I will say I have tried 250F/130R and did not find it terribly harsh. I'm running 160F/115R now and I find it pretty comfortable. I tried another set but I don't remember them off hand. And then there is the stock rates (truth be told there are all manner of rate combinations you might want). Nobody ever complained about the handling of a Europa with stock springs. The 160/115 I'm running now feel good to me and a bit more relaxing than the 250/130 I've run in the past but were not as stiff as they sound. I think if I change anything from here, I'd keep the same rate and get shorter springs.

Since there is no further description for SJ046D0004 other than S1 and S2 spring, I expect that is the stock spring with the stock rate. There are lots of places in the US where you can order springs by length, rate, and diameter if you want something other than stock (hint: search for something like "1.88 inch racing coil over springs").

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Re: Another S2 adventure, 742R, Carnival red and "Running".
« Reply #85 on: Saturday,February 24, 2024, 10:08:10 PM »
Shocks are a delay item, so on to other task for now.
I have new seals for the transaxle output shafts but it seems I also need an O ring set and maybe a couple more shims. 
Another delay. :headbanger:
I will see what I can do for a nut driving tool too.

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Re: Another S2 adventure, 742R, Carnival red and "Running".
« Reply #86 on: Sunday,February 25, 2024, 03:58:25 AM »
4WD socket works …also fits retainer for fuel level float unit
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Re: Another S2 adventure, 742R, Carnival red and "Running".
« Reply #87 on: Monday,February 26, 2024, 03:45:54 PM »
Already have the output seals but today I ordered the O rings and some more shims.
Also took a sample ring from my junk trans to buy a driver at O'Rielly.


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Re: Another S2 adventure, 742R, Carnival red and "Running".
« Reply #88 on: Monday,February 26, 2024, 04:20:42 PM »
Oops!
Forgot about the output shaft protruding.
Hopefully they will have another version that is longer.
EDIT: Exchanged, and even got some cash back.
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Re: Another S2 adventure, 742R, Carnival red and "Running".
« Reply #89 on: Monday,February 26, 2024, 06:11:48 PM »
After install pics of the swirl pot hose going to the transfer tube.
It does clear the air filter no problem.