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Offline GavinT

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Europa production line - with Barry De Groot
« on: Monday,March 13, 2023, 12:38:14 PM »
Barry De Groot shared this photo on a Facebook group so I asked if it was OK to share it and he agreed.
As time whistles by, I reckon it's good to read the experience of those who were there at the time.

The pic below shows the early stages of the Europa production line, with Barry leaning on the front fender.
Below is a copy/paste outlining his story.


I joined Lotus in 1966 aged 23. Initially I was on the Elan assembly line, but later when I saw a model of the proposed Europa, I asked my boss Ted Elliot if I could somehow be involved in the project.

Initially 4 of us were set up in the Vehicle Engineering Department to build the first 2 prototypes. When completed, they were sent to the Lotus Dealership in Paris to be unveiled to the motoring press at a lavish cocktail party. I was the only one of the 4 who held a passport, so I had to accompany the cars on a transporter to Paris. I was required to attend the cocktail party with the motoring press, and afterwards joined other employees involved in the project, at a restaurant in Paris as guests of Mr. Chapman.

On my return I was involved with the initial setting up of the Europa assembly line, that is when this photo was taken.



Link to the Facebook "Lotus Europa" group - you'll need to become a member.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/95292140870


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Re: Europa production line - with Barry De Groot
« Reply #1 on: Monday,March 13, 2023, 02:36:09 PM »
Thanks for sharing!
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Re: Europa production line - with Barry De Groot
« Reply #2 on: Monday,March 13, 2023, 04:04:06 PM »
Baby Europas lining up to be born!

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Re: Europa production line - with Barry De Groot
« Reply #3 on: Monday,March 13, 2023, 09:05:29 PM »
Very cool history snippet. Thanks for sharing.
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Re: Europa production line - with Barry De Groot
« Reply #4 on: Thursday,March 16, 2023, 07:36:56 AM »
Baby Europas lining up to be born!

With suits standing there watching. 
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Re: Europa production line - with Barry De Groot
« Reply #5 on: Thursday,March 16, 2023, 11:56:53 AM »
Wow that pic is a VERY COOL snippet of history!!

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Re: Europa production line - with Barry De Groot
« Reply #6 on: Thursday,March 16, 2023, 08:15:28 PM »

With suits standing there watching.

They're the accountants who's job it is to make sure Colin doesn't spend too much money on rear axles.  :D

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Re: Europa production line - with Barry De Groot
« Reply #7 on: Friday,March 17, 2023, 03:30:23 AM »
 ??? Good one Gavin
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Re: Europa production line - with Barry De Groot
« Reply #8 on: Saturday,March 18, 2023, 06:50:40 PM »

With suits standing there watching.

They're the accountants who's job it is to make sure Colin doesn't spend too much money on rear axles.  :D

Or ensuring that lotus bought the Hillman Imp ones that didn't pass THEIR inspection standards?
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Re: Europa production line - with Barry De Groot
« Reply #9 on: Sunday,March 19, 2023, 02:27:33 PM »

Or ensuring that lotus bought the Hillman Imp ones that didn't pass THEIR inspection standards?

Tut, tut, Bryan.

It's well known that an axle designed for a 37HP car will serve adequately in an 80HP car and also for the later 105HP and 126HP cars as well.
And if there are any problems during the warranty period, we'll issue a service note mandating that they be glued together  . . .  :D

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Re: Europa production line - with Barry De Groot
« Reply #10 on: Sunday,March 19, 2023, 02:54:53 PM »
All good jokes aside guys, who is Derek Stealth?
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Re: Europa production line - with Barry De Groot
« Reply #11 on: Sunday,March 19, 2023, 03:05:29 PM »
I've no idea, D'man.
Is there someone on the other side of the car that Barry is talking to?

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Re: Europa production line - with Barry De Groot
« Reply #12 on: Sunday,March 19, 2023, 06:07:00 PM »
  I see him now, zooming in on my iPhone 😂😂
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Re: Europa production line - with Barry De Groot
« Reply #13 on: Monday,March 20, 2023, 09:51:05 AM »

With suits standing there watching.

They're the accountants who's job it is to make sure Colin doesn't spend too much money on rear axles.  :D

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Re: Europa production line - with Barry De Groot
« Reply #14 on: Monday,March 20, 2023, 10:51:24 AM »

Or ensuring that lotus bought the Hillman Imp ones that didn't pass THEIR inspection standards?

Tut, tut, Bryan.

It's well known that an axle designed for a 37HP car will serve adequately in an 80HP car and also for the later 105HP and 126HP cars as well.
And if there are any problems during the warranty period, we'll issue a service note mandating that they be glued together  . . .  :D

Value engineering at its finest. 

(another example is early Piper Cherokees used the interior door handles from VW beetles for the door latch.  Didn't even buff off the VWAG part number when they installed them.  Cessna used, at least in my 172K, the vent window latch from a '49 Chevy for the latch for the door window.  Of course the price from Cessna for the part versus from a repop manufacturer is a factor of 100 different.)

And somehow...we just smile knowingly when we discover these cross-polinated bits and bobs, right?
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