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Vin question
« on: Wednesday,October 05, 2022, 07:23:06 AM »
Found a very sad Europa under a tree in Virginia. It's a s2 I believe. The vin plate says 1170R, I have tried to find vin decoder to no avail. I need to trim the weeds around it to get look at drivetrain.
It has 4 pipes coming out of the area where the  license plate would be.
Has good windshield , no rear windshield. Interior is trash.
I believe it will be a "you can have it if you move it..."  body is straight but rough.
So is it an s2 federal? What year?
What engine should it have?

I really have no need for this, but feel too sad leaving it.

Do early windshields work on later cars ie would this fit my tc?

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Re: Vin question
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday,October 05, 2022, 07:37:09 AM »
Unfortunately the S2 is not in the registry.

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Re: Vin question
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday,October 05, 2022, 07:44:47 AM »
Do early windshields work on later cars ie would this fit my tc?

Yes early windshields fit TC. It's only the Chinese aftermarket ones that are undersized for S1 and S2.

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Re: Vin question
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday,October 05, 2022, 07:47:10 AM »
The last place "R" indicates US or federal car. If the VIN starts with a 54 it is pre 1970. If it starts with a 7 it is post 1970.

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Re: Vin question
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday,October 05, 2022, 07:50:50 AM »
Thank you I will get info on the full vin. The only plate I could access was the small one that only gave the number I listed earlier

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Re: Vin question
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday,October 05, 2022, 07:56:04 AM »
Found this in the registry.
Only three cars off.

S2 Fed.
Vin Number: 65/1167R
Date Built: 8/16/1971
Date Invoiced: 8/29/1971
Engine #: 821-30/2415
Transmission #: 336-66/0481 4 Speed


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Re: Vin question
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday,October 05, 2022, 08:43:31 AM »
Can you take some pictures of it in its current surroundings? I always like to ponder how such an awesome car came to a sad end... I saw a Ferrari in the woods on Ebay a few years ago, not much left of it due to the elements. It's hard to grasp why people dump some cars like that...

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Re: Vin question
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday,October 05, 2022, 08:51:31 AM »
Registry no longer being updated?

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Re: Vin question
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday,October 05, 2022, 10:44:43 AM »
I access this site via my phone and it seems impossible to post pictures. Sorry. Would love to. My race mechanic has a client with a collection of exotic cars, keeps them all outside, under pine trees , near the ocean. He seems to have no concern as they rust away, most are all mechanically sound drivers. Like a 308, Mondial convertible, early xjs, a euro bmw e30m3, list goes on. The Mondial is basically see thru at this point.

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Re: Vin question
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday,October 05, 2022, 11:28:01 AM »
Registry no longer being updated?

I don't think so; I sent Dan the update for 3291R and never saw the entry nor any updates.
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Re: Vin question
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday,October 05, 2022, 09:02:07 PM »
I access this site via my phone and it seems impossible to post pictures. Sorry. Would love to. My race mechanic has a client with a collection of exotic cars, keeps them all outside, under pine trees , near the ocean. He seems to have no concern as they rust away, most are all mechanically sound drivers. Like a 308, Mondial convertible, early xjs, a euro bmw e30m3, list goes on. The Mondial is basically see thru at this point.

Omg, I have a Mondial convertible. Anything and everytthing to fix on the car is super expensive. Trying to fix one of those back to normal condition would cost more than the car is worth.

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Re: Vin question
« Reply #11 on: Monday,October 10, 2022, 03:19:53 PM »
Found a very sad Europa under a tree in Virginia. It's a s2 I believe. The vin plate says 1170R, I have tried to find vin decoder to no avail. I need to trim the weeds around it to get look at drivetrain.
It has 4 pipes coming out of the area where the  license plate would be.
Has good windshield , no rear windshield. Interior is trash.
I believe it will be a "you can have it if you move it..."  body is straight but rough.
So is it an s2 federal? What year?
What engine should it have?

I really have no need for this, but feel too sad leaving it.

Do early windshields work on later cars ie would this fit my tc?

Looks like August of 1971
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