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Offline dakazman

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Badged JPS Europa, Finding one.
« on: Thursday,February 17, 2022, 04:31:00 PM »
   How many badged JPS  are still out there?
 I’m searching for another Europa Who has a list of which Europa’s are authentic, since I finished my elky. 
  It seems anyone can throw the badge on any tc with a L15 paint code on it from a damaged one.
 
Please chime in and list your Badge.

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Re: Badged JPS Europa, Finding one.
« Reply #1 on: Thursday,February 17, 2022, 08:29:36 PM »
Dave,

 Here's a link to some research I did along with member with Ted Taylor before he sold his #185... We went through the old registry to find documented chassis numbers and production dates, along with comments on actual badge numbers.

How many are still around?...if 200 was the initial number almost 50 years ago, I'd venture s safe bet would be less than 50...ld

https://lotuspals.ning.com/profiles/blog/show?id=4667018%3ABlogPost%3A58526&commentId=4667018%3AComment%3A58358 

 

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Re: Badged JPS Europa, Finding one.
« Reply #2 on: Thursday,February 17, 2022, 08:31:13 PM »
Lou, you need an account and password to access your link.

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Re: Badged JPS Europa, Finding one.
« Reply #3 on: Thursday,February 17, 2022, 08:44:24 PM »
Lou, you need an account and password to access your link.

Screen shot attached...Thanks BDA
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Re: Badged JPS Europa, Finding one.
« Reply #4 on: Friday,February 18, 2022, 06:06:14 AM »
  Thanks Lou for the link, I signed up .

    I found what I believe is the correct badge and another that my be just a commemorative pix 3 .
Having some documentation of a JPS originality is also what I’m looking for and hopefully the registry can help. I’ll start my quest, when I have extra time to search for my next Loti .
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Re: Badged JPS Europa, Finding one.
« Reply #5 on: Friday,February 18, 2022, 07:37:39 AM »
Supposedly the factory has records of which TC/S Europas were commemorative editions.

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Re: Badged JPS Europa, Finding one.
« Reply #6 on: Thursday,February 24, 2022, 07:27:58 AM »
Lou: you may want to include #142...which is mine.  Can send you the letter from Andy if you want to verify, as well as the Lotus East invoice...;)
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Re: Badged JPS Europa, Finding one.
« Reply #7 on: Friday,February 25, 2022, 05:44:03 PM »
Dakazman: You are correct that your top photo is factory commemorative number badge, bottom badge is not. Look at JPS # assignment list. Notice JPS numbers vs. chassis numbers are pretty random, with some early JPS #'s on late chassis #'s and vice versa. Mine is one - a late JPS #180 on a Nov 1972 chassis #2835R. And notice the random mix or R and P chassis assignments. Norwich sent Lotus USA a bag of numbers, where Europas sold very well (relative to production), and apply to black w/gold pinstripe Europa Specials.

Some were reported added to cars before shipped out to dealers (unconfirmed), while other were done at dealerships (absolutely confirmed). The result is a very random assignment. I can also confirm not every last number was ever put on any car. With that final limit of #200, not every black w/gold Europa Special got one, as we all well know.

Yes, they are treated as a sort of cool holy grail of black Specials, if you find or have one. But the truth is, the factory had no exact idea of which cars got what JPS #'s in the US. Anything now known for sure about the #'s is post facto, collected from owners who posted info somewhere, as is the case with my car. Nice to have, but really in the end, a round piece of very misunderstood plastic stuck somewhere in the interior (usually as your picture show, but mine is elsewhere).

A much as I was determined to own one and bought it almost 50 years ago, I now see it as rather misunderstood and, consequently, somewhat overrated. More or less like being every 11th caller into a radio station for free concert tickets than any actual precisely planned factory designation. Best if you were maybe on the favored customer list at a dealer, and got one added to your car as a thank you gift - on or, for some, done well after the sale.

Not that it isn't cool, but beyond a number disk, it doesn't add another feature to the car. But learning all this decades ago, I decided that keeping the car 100% original just because of a badge was not in the cards. It still has the badge, but the car has undergone multiple improvements over the years that I have never thought twice about doing to preserve a "JPS".
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- A Norwegian Blue with beautiful plumage is still nothing but a dead parrot.

1973 Black Europa TCS/Vegantune JPS #180
1973 White Europa TCS
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1975 Ferrari Dino 308 GT4
1994 Volvo 940 Shoebox Wagon
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Re: Badged JPS Europa, Finding one.
« Reply #8 on: Friday,February 25, 2022, 10:51:16 PM »
It's my understanding that the JPS "package" also included a carton of cigarettes, a jacket, etc.

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Re: Badged JPS Europa, Finding one.
« Reply #9 on: Saturday,February 26, 2022, 04:19:18 AM »
It's my understanding that the JPS "package" also included a carton of cigarettes, a jacket, etc.

Smokes (fags in UK), fob, patch, decal, pin, cuff links & Jacket...

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Re: Badged JPS Europa, Finding one.
« Reply #10 on: Saturday,February 26, 2022, 04:46:43 AM »
...and the model F1 car?

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Re: Badged JPS Europa, Finding one.
« Reply #11 on: Sunday,February 27, 2022, 03:57:47 PM »
Jacket similar to mine. Can't tell if sleeves on your photo are embroidered, zipper pulls have JPS on them, or if that's a sewn patch on front or also embroidered. Maybe there was more than one kind.
- A Norwegian Blue with beautiful plumage is still nothing but a dead parrot.

1973 Black Europa TCS/Vegantune JPS #180
1973 White Europa TCS
2012 Jaguar XJL 5.0 Supercharged
1975 Ferrari Dino 308 GT4
1994 Volvo 940 Shoebox Wagon
2005 Yamaha V Star
1998 Kawasaki XII Voyager

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Re: Badged JPS Europa, Finding one.
« Reply #12 on: Monday,February 28, 2022, 08:54:03 PM »
003, I’ve got about 9 months or so left on the restoration, engine rebuild was just completed and I’m working on the chassis.  Bodywork largely done.

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Re: Badged JPS Europa, Finding one.
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday,March 01, 2022, 03:09:09 AM »
  Jeff
  Wow , a double 0.  Post more pics.
 
   I found this a good read .

  http://www.lotuseuropa.org/LotusForum/index.php?topic=2548.0

  Having the certificate of provenance would be a nice addition in your case .

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Re: Badged JPS Europa, Finding one.
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday,March 01, 2022, 05:18:14 AM »
I bought it  as a stalled project and it ended up having many, many things to fix or be redone. I have maybe 9-12 months of work left.