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Re: Wheel Men...Drivers of the Lotus 49
« Reply #150 on: Tuesday,April 18, 2017, 02:28:09 PM »
Brave man! Sadly dying because he had the wings taken off his car at Monza - an untested configuration. Ironically, he was probably the only driver (up till that point anyway) who refused to drive a car because he thought it was unsafe.

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Re: Wheel Men...Drivers of the Lotus 49
« Reply #151 on: Wednesday,April 19, 2017, 09:04:21 AM »
Brave man! Sadly dying because he had the wings taken off his car at Monza - an untested configuration. Ironically, he was probably the only driver (up till that point anyway) who refused to drive a car because he thought it was unsafe.
Was that not the incident that landed Colin in hot water with the Italian authorities who want to put him on trial for murder, or some charges similar to that?
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Re: Wheel Men...Drivers of the Lotus 49
« Reply #152 on: Wednesday,April 19, 2017, 09:14:59 AM »
I think that was Frank Williams for the Senna crash.

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Re: Wheel Men...Drivers of the Lotus 49
« Reply #153 on: Wednesday,April 19, 2017, 11:27:59 AM »
The first Lotus incident with the Italians crying foul was in the 1961 Italian Grand Prix on 10 September at Monza, Wolfgang von Trips in his Ferrari collided with Jim Clark's Lotus. Von Trips's car became airborne and crashed into a side barrier, fatally throwing von Trips out of the car and killing fifteen spectators. (Wikipedia).

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Re: Wheel Men...Drivers of the Lotus 49
« Reply #154 on: Thursday,April 20, 2017, 04:33:14 AM »
The first Lotus incident with the Italians crying foul was in the 1961 Italian Grand Prix on 10 September at Monza, Wolfgang von Trips in his Ferrari collided with Jim Clark's Lotus. Von Trips's car became airborne and crashed into a side barrier, fatally throwing von Trips out of the car and killing fifteen spectators. (Wikipedia).

Life and Karma...Jochen's parents were killed in an allied bombing raid near the end of WW2, and was raised by relatives in Austria. Always the wild one, he was influenced to motorsports as a young boy and his idol was the German ace Von Trips. Was it his fate to perish only meters away from the same place?

As for Senna, it is Italian law that all motor vehicle deaths are to be investigated...and, as in this case, Frank Williams would be summoned to a trial to determine if fault was present. Homicide investigators scoured the equipment and all black box data. It was revealed that during construction of the Williams chassis, Senna did not like the position of his steering wheel and requested it be altered. The column was cut and a 3" splice was welded in...It was this splice that failed during the Imola race, causing the loss of steering control.   

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Re: Wheel Men...Drivers of the Lotus 49
« Reply #155 on: Friday,April 21, 2017, 12:27:11 AM »
The cause of the Senna crash is still a subject of debate. I'd suggest reading the Nostalgia forum for some very erudite opinions.

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Re: Wheel Men...Drivers of the Lotus 49
« Reply #156 on: Monday,May 01, 2017, 02:29:49 PM »
Once in a while I'll come across a couple of shots taken at the exact moment in time by different photographers...

The first privateer win for Rob Walker at Brands Hatch in 1968 with Jo"Seppi"Siffert in the 49B.   

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Re: Wheel Men...Drivers of the Lotus 49
« Reply #157 on: Monday,May 01, 2017, 05:29:43 PM »
More great pictures, Lou. I wonder why the Lotus steering wheel hub was taped over?

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Re: Wheel Men...Drivers of the Lotus 49
« Reply #158 on: Tuesday,May 02, 2017, 05:00:01 AM »
Lou, what about Stirling Moss winning the Argentinian Grand Prix, Trintignant at Monaco in 1958, 2 more GPs for Moss in 1959, all in Coopers, and further wins by Moss, like
Monaco 1960, incidentally the first GP win for a Lotus, Moss again at US GP, Monaco and Nurburgring, etc., etc. All for Rob Walker.
Seppi's win wasn't Walker's first, but I think it might have been his last.
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Re: Wheel Men...Drivers of the Lotus 49
« Reply #159 on: Tuesday,May 02, 2017, 12:45:41 PM »
I wonder why the Lotus steering wheel hub was taped over?

Because the Lotus emblem was a bad fit, it kept falling out, and Chunky hadn't paid the suppliers so they hadn't delivered the new batch.


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Re: Wheel Men...Drivers of the Lotus 49
« Reply #160 on: Tuesday,May 02, 2017, 01:30:08 PM »
I guess that shouldn't be a surprise to anyone!


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Re: Wheel Men...Drivers of the Lotus 49
« Reply #161 on: Tuesday,May 02, 2017, 02:11:59 PM »
Lou, what about Stirling Moss winning the Argentinian Grand Prix, Trintignant at Monaco in 1958, 2 more GPs for Moss in 1959, all in Coopers, and further wins by Moss, like
Monaco 1960, incidentally the first GP win for a Lotus, Moss again at US GP, Monaco and Nurburgring, etc., etc. All for Rob Walker.
Seppi's win wasn't Walker's first, but I think it might have been his last.

Roger...It's about the 49, not about who won where, when, and what chassis was used...I did not want it to sound like his victory was the first privateer to win a GP. Sorry you interpreted it that way...ld   

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Re: Wheel Men...Drivers of the Lotus 49
« Reply #162 on: Monday,May 22, 2017, 05:52:16 AM »
In 1967 the French Grand Prix was held at Le Mans...

I love this shot because it captures the feeling of tension and excitement of the pit lane on race day. Closer examination shows another Worlds Champion in the photo...care to identify him?   

     

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Re: Wheel Men...Drivers of the Lotus 49
« Reply #163 on: Monday,May 22, 2017, 06:47:35 AM »
Other than Hill and Clark?

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Re: Wheel Men...Drivers of the Lotus 49
« Reply #164 on: Monday,May 22, 2017, 06:54:29 AM »
I'm looking for a 6 year old.

Haven't seen him yet..............