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Offline TurboFource

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Bubble flare tool?
« on: Tuesday,August 03, 2021, 12:19:14 PM »
Since I removed the boosters and want to simplify the brake lines, can anyone recommend
an affordable bubble flare tool that will do a decent job?

Thanks!
The more I do the more I find I need to do....remember your ABC’s …anything but chinesium!

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Re: Bubble flare tool?
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday,August 03, 2021, 12:26:43 PM »

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Re: Bubble flare tool?
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday,August 03, 2021, 12:29:22 PM »
I use a vice mounted Sykes Pickavant flaring tool. It comes with all necessary for all sizes of pipes, it is very well made and easy to use.

The only problem is you cannot use it out of a bench vice on the long pipe in situ on the chassis. 

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Re: Bubble flare tool?
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday,August 03, 2021, 12:33:22 PM »
It appears my TCS has ISO and SAE flares...... :confused:

Is that correct?
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Re: Bubble flare tool?
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday,August 03, 2021, 12:49:14 PM »
This tool is inexpensive and makes excellent single/bubble flares in 3/16 brake line.  Used one for years before buying the Eastwood tool.  The one BDA links to can be made to work "ok-ish" but I don't recommend those style of flare tools for the bubble flare.

Do not just start flaring lines based on what you have read, or, what was there before.  Look inside the cylinder's port to see what kind of flare is required.

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Re: Bubble flare tool?
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday,August 03, 2021, 01:27:49 PM »
Just a word of advice, before you put the fitting on the pipe and flare it, put the fitting into the corresponding fitting to make sure the threads are compatible.

I have put fitting on pipes, which look correct, flared the pipe, and then when trying to connect male to female, either the fitting is too big, or the threads are non-compatible. Do a dry run first.

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Re: Bubble flare tool?
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday,August 03, 2021, 02:05:25 PM »
Not super cheap but not all that expensive also but I use the Eastwood on car flaring tool. It can also use in a vice to make your flares. This should be all the brake flaring tool that you would ever need for 3/16" brake lines; it makes both bubble and double flares. No matter what tool you use, preparation is key. Make sure that your cuts are clean and straight and deburr the ends otherwise you will end up with deformed crappy flares.

  https://www.eastwood.com/eastwood-on-car-flaring-tool-for-3-16-tubing.html

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Re: Bubble flare tool?
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday,August 03, 2021, 03:00:56 PM »
Sorry, forgot there link, duh.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/264213568109

Cheap, cheerful, and works well.

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Re: Bubble flare tool?
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday,August 03, 2021, 04:05:13 PM »
The Eastwood one didn't mention bubble flares that I saw....
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Re: Bubble flare tool?
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday,August 03, 2021, 04:41:53 PM »
It's not mentioned but the first operation uses the concave end which forms the bubble flare. To form the double flare, the die is flipped to the convex end that which then  forms the double flare. It seems that the same tool is sold under several brands. Check you tube for several videos using the tool.

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Re: Bubble flare tool?
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday,August 03, 2021, 05:23:53 PM »
The Eastwood tool is excellent.  Have one myself, no complaints.  A lot of coin if you are just doing a few lines though.

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Re: Bubble flare tool?
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday,August 03, 2021, 05:54:12 PM »
It appears my TCS has ISO and SAE flares...... :confused:

Is that correct?
Mine also - all bubble flares except double flares into the stainless braided flexible brake lines I replaced during the rebuild - guess it doesn't matter as long as the "nuts" are correct for each type of flare.... :confused:   

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Re: Bubble flare tool?
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday,August 03, 2021, 06:12:27 PM »
I tried the red boxed one and didn't have success. I bought the Eastwood one. It is very nice. I re did everything and sold it for about what I paid. It does bubble flares. I think there is a youtube video but it's been a few years.

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Re: Bubble flare tool?
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday,August 03, 2021, 06:21:37 PM »
As always, thanks for the help!
The more I do the more I find I need to do....remember your ABC’s …anything but chinesium!

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Re: Bubble flare tool?
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday,August 03, 2021, 06:30:01 PM »
Be careful. SAE flares are 45 degrees. Stainless steel braided line (as far as I’ve seen) hose ends have 37 degree AN flares. Companies (I’m most familiar with Earls which is now owned by Holly) make adapters that go between AN and other “conventional” brake fittings and flares. Make sure you use the proper flares. It should go without saying that 37 degree flares and fittings are not compatible with 45 degree fittings.