4304R Ebay listing

[Lou Drozdowski]

Seller described as "barn find"....California

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-Lotus-Europa-Special-Twin-Cam-Special/324376017027?hash=item4b86513883:g:QucAAOSwOA5fsfl0

[BDA]

Not bad really. I would have liked to see it idle though. Hopefully the 365 is in good shape.

[Lou Drozdowski]

Not bad really. I would have liked to see it idle though. Hopefully the 365 is in good shape.

The good...looks like it's mostly all there and the wheels cleaned up well.
The bad...plenty of work, brakes, everything rubber, you know the drill...full sorting.
The ugly...paint & that interior
 

[Dilkris]

Is that a one off thermostat housing - or standard for the export model? (There appears to be a plug on the top)

[Grumblebuns]

The car is also listed on the Los Angeles Craigslist. Car is located in Orange County, Irvine and Mission Viejo area.

https://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/cto/d/lake-forest-1974-lotus-twin-cam-special/7219610571.html

That tartan fabric center console arm rest pad looks awfully familiar.

[Lotsof 3146 R]

Are the front indicators correct ?

[BDA]

No. I guess the PO didn’t like warts!

[Kendo]

I noticed the description "CLEAN UNRESTORED and VERY ORIGINAL" (except for all of the mods done over the years...)

[Richard48Y]

"the last version of the Europa has nothing to do with the earlier Renaut powered versions. This is the Europa model/series to have!"

Um, Nothing Renault, except of course the entire transmission!
The attempted hype, TC snobbery, and put down of the Renault engines annoys me.
I really have no reason to care but it does.

My own is Renault with TS head, and exactly what I wanted.
Nothing against the TC's, but it seems repairs are very expensive, blocks are heavy iron, the heads are not that durable, and a TS will make similar power.

[Bainford]

"the last version of the Europa has nothing to do with the earlier Renaut powered versions. This is the Europa model/series to have!"

I was mildly annoyed by that as well. It suggests the S2 is a lesser car, which is patently untrue. Many S2 owners prefer their car to a TC. I would think that pretty much all S1 owners are convinced they, in fact, have the "model/series to have", and it would be hard to argue.
The statement is also factually wrong in its suggestion that earlier and later Europas are completely dissimilar machines, when in fact they are very nearly the same car.

[Sparkrite]

"the last version of the Europa has nothing to do with the earlier Renaut powered versions. This is the Europa model/series to have!"

Um, Nothing Renault, except of course the entire transmission!
The attempted hype, TC snobbery, and put down of the Renault engines annoys me.
I really have no reason to care but it does.

My own is Renault with TS head, and exactly what I wanted.
Nothing against the TC's, but it seems repairs are very expensive, blocks are heavy iron, the heads are not that durable, and a TS will make similar power.

Forgive my ignorance but what is a TS

[GavinT]

Forgive my ignorance but what is a TS

Probably refers to the head being from a Renault 16TS.
The 'TS' indicates the later cross flow head.

The original car, just named "Renault 16", used a wedge head.
Europa S1 & S2's were supplied with a couple of variants of warmed over Renault 16 engines utilising the wedge heads.

[Richard48Y]

Yes, TS is the almost a Hemi, cross-flow head.
From my reading these heads were originally a Gordini design but it would not be accurate to refer to my car as having a Gordini engine.
A surprisingly common S1/S2 modification since it was not available from the factory.

[jbcollier]

Don't forget the Renault crossflow came in a range of stock tunes (80hp to 125hp: varied port and valve sizes, compression ratios and carb type and number) and was available as a crate engine in yet more tunes (100hp to 160hp).  So, having a "crossflow" head doesn't mean much without more specifics.

[TurboFource]

Sold for less than 14 grand....