365 Transmission Output Shaft Seals Replacement

[surypap3]

Thank you. I saved this info to a file for when I venture into this. Still struggling with the no reverse. So holding off till I see if the case needs to be opened to figure out the reverse issue. Any thoughts on that?

[jbcollier]

Can you explain exactly what it doesn't do?  Won't move into the reverse gate beyond the 1-2 gate?  Won't move into reverse once it's in the reverse gate?

[Roger]

It can also be difficult to get the ring out. Does anyone have any tips?

[jbcollier]

You can't remove the ring without either removing the seal nut, or damaging the seal.

[Roger]

You can't remove the ring without either removing the seal nut, or damaging the seal.

I mean with the seal nut off, getting the ring out seems to require a lot of effort. What do you use?

[jbcollier]

Picks with a 90 degree end like this:

https://m.aircraftspruce.ca/catalog/topages/pickhook.php?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI5-S19rSJ6gIVlR6tBh0YiQ6JEAQYCCABEgJcnvD_BwE

[surypap3]

Can you explain exactly what it doesn't do?  Won't move into the reverse gate beyond the 1-2 gate?  Won't move into reverse once it's in the reverse gate?

In attempting to go into reverse, I can move the shifter laterally into the position where it pushes up on the detent ball, but then moving the shifter back into reverse goes nowhere. It feels completely blocked. The detent ball does not fully go into its housing if that makes any difference. But nor does it when going to fifth. 5th operates just fine.

[jbcollier]

Reverse is selected by moving the shifter backwards which then moves the selector forward.

Disconnect the linkage at the transaxle and turn the selector manually into the reverse gate and then push the selector forward.

[lotusfanatic]

Hi surypap3,

 

Mark

[surypap3]

Reverse is selected by moving the shifter backwards which then moves the selector forward.

Disconnect the linkage at the transaxle and turn the selector manually into the reverse gate and then push the selector forward.

I have tried that (eliminate the shifter and linkage) with the same results experienced using the shifter. The shaft will not go forward into reverse. Ugh! It is solidly blocked from going forward.

[jbcollier]

Lastly, remove the external detent and try again -- I don't think it will help but it's worth trying.

Again, you have rotated there wheels while trying to engage reverse?

If yes, you will have to remove the rear cover and see what's up.

[surypap3]

Thanks for the ideas. Clarification on removing the external detent …. there is a ball/housing and a cam, which are you referring to for removal? BTW, the Ball never goes completely into the housing when pushed by the cam? Is that wrong?

The process of turning the wheel ….. do this while trying to manually shift into reverse? Or move the wheel slightly while in another gear, then try reverse?

Thank you!

[SilverBeast]

Move the wheel while in neutral,  you are trying to turn the gears on the output side so the tips of the teeth don't line up with the input side.  I think you might possibly need one of the rear wheels on the ground,  or stopped from rotating, so the diff engages with the gearbox on the easiest side to turn (ie the one off the ground you are turning!)

[surypap3]

OK. That should be easy to try! Thx

[SilverBeast]

If you remove the housing with the ball and spring for the reverse and fifth gear detent ( I've never done this, but mark it's position frirst) it should make it easier to get it in to gear, as  this is what gives most of the extra resistance to selecting these gears