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Re: Types 78 & 79...Game changers
« Reply #90 on: Wednesday,December 08, 2021, 08:32:22 PM »
Martini & Rossi...

Don't care very much about vermouth, but during the day they were heavy into motorsport advertising. Got their feet wet in F1 with the Tecno team and later Brabham and the BT /44 chassis. In later years supported the Lancia factory efforts in the sports prototype and world rally championships.

Budget cuts forced Mr. Chapman to look elsewhere for funds for the Type 80 project, and with Williams (who directly copied the type 79) dominated the season, forcing Colin to extend the lifecycle of the 79 an extra year.

Now painted green, the 79 sported new sponsorship and some creative artwork.

   

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Re: Types 78 & 79...Game changers
« Reply #91 on: Thursday,December 09, 2021, 07:21:18 AM »
Black Beauty wearing green.

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Re: Types 78 & 79...Game changers
« Reply #92 on: Wednesday,January 12, 2022, 08:35:31 AM »
1978 total domination...Team Lotus

How good was the type 79 ?

In total wins Mario took the top step six times to Ronnie's two.
Pole positions went to Mario again with eight, while super Swede had three.
Fastest race laps were even at three, for each driver.
1-2 finishes with Mario on top at Belgium, Spain, France & Holland.
Championship points to Andretti with 64 and Peterson finishing second with 51.   

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Re: Types 78 & 79...Game changers
« Reply #93 on: Thursday,January 13, 2022, 07:57:45 AM »
Cheers Lou. Type 79 stats are always impressive. And such a good looking car, too. In this era, many, such as the Lotus, were still quite tidy looking.
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Re: Types 78 & 79...Game changers
« Reply #94 on: Tuesday,February 08, 2022, 12:15:04 PM »
Colin Chapman turned quite a few heads starting with the ground effect type 78. The other constructors scrambled to design their own weapons to take advantage of the  new found dynamic forces.

Here's a fantastic video...Brabham's "Fan Car" and the reasons for it's demise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B294RfWj1QE 

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Re: Types 78 & 79...Game changers
« Reply #95 on: Tuesday,February 08, 2022, 01:04:23 PM »
Why anyone in 1979 would think the BT46 was legal after the FIA banned the Chaparral 2J in 1970 baffles me. It was as if Murray's memory didn't go back ten years. As far as I've been able to tell, Murray never mentioned the 2J which means to me that he wanted to claim the fan as an original idea.

For those who are curious or would like to be reminded about the 2J, here is a nice article: https://www.roadandtrack.com/motorsports/a32350/jim-hall-chaparral-2j-history/.

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Re: Types 78 & 79...Game changers
« Reply #96 on: Monday,February 28, 2022, 04:29:04 AM »
Will we see the Andretti name back in F1?

Speculations abound with $200 million entry already secured and a Renault engine planned...Look for Bryan Herta as the next USA driver to try his hand in 2024.

ps....Happy Birthday Mario!   2/28/40

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Re: Types 78 & 79...Game changers
« Reply #97 on: Monday,February 28, 2022, 05:59:31 AM »
 :happy-bday:  Mario!!

Michael back in F1, as a team owner this time, would be great! I hope he’s able to pull it off. I’m a little surprised about it after his brief and frustrating stint as a driver.

I wonder how another US team will impact the Haas team. Making F1 a little more of an American sport might benefit both of them.

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Re: Types 78 & 79...Game changers
« Reply #98 on: Monday,February 28, 2022, 10:44:13 AM »
 :happy-bday: Mario!

Interesting info, Lou. I had not heard this before.
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Re: Types 78 & 79...Game changers
« Reply #99 on: Saturday,June 04, 2022, 07:22:59 PM »
Reflections to the late 70's F1 constructors...Quiz

Name the model and driver...(Gunner won the race) 

 

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Re: Types 78 & 79...Game changers
« Reply #100 on: Saturday,June 04, 2022, 07:36:24 PM »
Mario and Gunnar are driving 78s.

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Re: Types 78 & 79...Game changers
« Reply #101 on: Sunday,June 05, 2022, 06:51:16 PM »
My first intro to open wheel was Formula Vee and Formula Libre(Libra depending on the location- inside joke).

I did not get to see the 78 race. I have seen one at Pebble Beach's charity car auction. I remain in absolute awe. The Cosworth V8 was cranked and I was just speechless. I can't articulate the moment and what it meant to me as a car nut.

Lotus is something that speaks to me. When I got my Eclat 907 running with dual DHLA 45's, Dave Bean cams, and a header adapted from a J-H, I had that same moment.

I have watched Youtube uploads of Lotus during the beginning of G-E era. I was at Talladega when a Wood Brothers Thunderbird qualified at 212mph. There are moments in motorsports, where you know that something has happened revolutionary.

I imagine the Ford Model T coming out being along the same lines.

Love, love, love, love the ground effects Formula One era.

I had a professor say that understanding matrix algebra was the key to understanding how we move through time and space. I had a difficult time with more than a 3x3 matix before he said that. But I got a book of problems and I just started working them and trying to apply it to the world around me- motion, space, objects, time, speed. I got an A in that course. Got an A in Physics I & II. It didn't start out that way. But when I plan an engine build, I know exactly how it will be used and I pick each part individuallly. Some guys wanna big game hunt- great, whatever- the big game hunt for me is finding that special piece so that the engine rotating assembly revs fast, pumps in air and petrol, and how the drivetrain will be built.

Formula One and even Champ Car- I knew I was seeing an era ending. At the end of the first Indy 500 I saw in person- I had tears in my eyes.

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Re: Types 78 & 79...Game changers
« Reply #102 on: Thursday,January 12, 2023, 07:48:48 PM »
A very nice rendering of the type 78...

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Re: Types 78 & 79...Game changers
« Reply #103 on: Friday,January 13, 2023, 09:28:31 AM »
That would look nice on the garage wall.
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Re: Types 78 & 79...Game changers
« Reply #104 on: Friday,January 20, 2023, 05:02:21 PM »
That would look nice on the garage wall.


Better yet...Andretti's 78 adorns a Paris home (spackle & toggle bolts)