1970 s2 0453R Reassembly

[EuropaTC]

Interesting, as I read this thread I was thinking how cool it would be to convert my Special from electric to manual pump.

How well do the manual pumps work? Are they difficult to operate? I'm going to have to look into these.

The manual pump works reasonably well in that it will push some water onto the screen and even far enough up to be useful. But that's about it. To operate you obviously have to take a hand from the steering wheel to the dash and until you're completely at one with the car, you'll probably take your eyes off the road. 

If you really, really want one then they were fitted to lots of UK cars in the 60s, Ford Cortina for example. You'd need both the switch & pump behind it plus the chrome bezels to fit it properly. You might even need to modify the dash ? I'm not sure without looking at the TC & TCS handbooks.

Brian

[surfguitar58]

I see, the parts list shows an electric washer pump for TCS-Fed only, suggesting euro-TCS's had the manual pump.

Bainford, I like the way you think!

Is the washer fluid "colostomy bag" a readily available replacement part? I don't see them on rdent.com. The part number appears in the Dave Bean price list, but that doesn't mean they have stocked that part in the last century.

t

[BDA]

I've seen the washer bags at different places. I suspect r.d. has them but you'd have to call them. Bean probably has them, too. Moss has them (https://mossmotors.com/washer-pouch?assoc=33256) though these are not clear.

[jbcollier]

Virtually every British parts supplier offers a washer bag with the pump built in.

[BDA]

When I went looking for a washer bag, I saw a lot with an attached pump. The TCS Federal (just looked it up in the parts manual and that was the only model with the electric pump), has the pump mounted on the back of the dash board so the original bag was just a bag. I do think having the pump at the bag is a better idea, though. If it needs to be replaced, it is MUCH easier to get to and it should pump better, too.

[dakazman]

 I just tested my pump and bag . Good news no leaks and the water pumps out a a good rate .

    But,

   It sounds like a angry swarm of humming bees , definitely not going into car . But I will add the wiring into the harness. Now I’ll just have to buy the manual type system parts.

Dakazman

[LotusJoe]

The additional hole on the driver's door jamb is for another door switch that goes to the logic box used on the Type 74.

[dakazman]

Lotus Joe,
Are you referring to this question ‘“Certified, where on the jamb does the switch go ? See pictures dash/switch/wire run from aft forward?
 
   The dash mount bracket attaches to the far aft hole , that leaves one for the door switch and the other for the wiring harness for the power window motor and door speakers. I have an s2 fed.

    Are you saying type 74 have 4 holes in jamb? Or am I missing something?
Dakazman

Rearranged my mock up board a little further so to make a little more room to work on. 

[gideon]

I dug out the dashboard when I got home, feeling sure that I could remember an electric washer pump.  But it turns out that I had mistaken the manual washer pump for an electric one.  The wiring was original, but it's only for the wipers.  J.B. was right (as usual).

[dakazman]

That’s guys , Gideon correct on JB getting it correct. Made some mods and this is what I expect.
Dakazman

[BDA]

Amazing work, Dman! It sure looks like you're planning on adding new electrical components (did you already tell us about that?)!

[surfguitar58]

So, Captain Aerospace, is there a better alternative to wrapping wire bundles in black electrical tape that gets all nasty and brittle (or gooey) after a few years?
t

[BDA]

I wouldn't be surprised if there was a better alternative to black wiring loom tape, but you should know that the tape for wiring looms is not electrical tape. It has no gum on it so it doesn't get gooey.

[dakazman]

 Guys , I was joking with the mod pic!

BDA is correct but I don’t know what the automotive people call it. It’s just black wrap.

Surf , I like permacel products,  P421 and others at https://www.e-aircraftsupply.com/aircraft_products/file/aircraft-products.aspx

Also http://www.firesleeveandtape.com/dms2186-mcdonnel-douglas-boeing-electrical-insulating-mil-spec-tape.html

 excellent tape that will bond to itself and stretches .

[BDA]

Guys , I was joking with the mod pic!

Well, I'm glad to hear that! Your picture was impressive but I thought somebody should remind you that white wires are hot with ignition on and unfused!