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Offline dakazman

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Re: Restoration of 2358R
« Reply #1245 on: Thursday,October 10, 2019, 07:35:13 PM »
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Your desk top is immaculate, I’ll take a picture of mine for comparison and maybe see your car in beautiful NJ. one day.
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Re: Restoration of 2358R
« Reply #1246 on: Friday,October 11, 2019, 07:54:26 PM »
Dave, I wouldn't say immaculate, maybe organized.....

I have a habit of putting my tools away every night. Wipe them down and put them back where they belong. Doesn't matter that I working on something the next day.  The tools always get put away.

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Re: Restoration of 2358R
« Reply #1247 on: Friday,October 11, 2019, 08:18:44 PM »
Spent the afternoon re-installing the front suspension with the "new" 10 inch springs.  I already know that the stance is two inches higher (which I'm not keen about) but the 10 inch shocks will prevent the antisway bar being hit and the shocks from hitting the bump stops.

I needed my helper to position the shocks so I could tap the long top bolts for the a-arms in place.  She was more than happy to assist, mainly due to the fact that I'm not in the garage every night lately as the Europa restoration is mostly done.

Somewhere I read that you should install washers on either side of the shock absorber bushings.  I've got a dim memory of this so I installed thin stainless steel washers on either side of the top bushings.

Of course, while re-assembling my trusty bottle of never seize is always by my side to brush on a thing coat of any metal to metal contact.

I also replaced the broken speedometer cable. Found out it broke at the transaxle side and the cable sheath had wear marks where the shift tube hits it. After installing the new speedo cable I looked closely at the shift tube movement and could not figure out how to eliminate it from rubbing the speedo cable. Any ideas on this?  I'm stumped.  I did take the cable out of the sheath and applied a nice thin film of grease on it before re-inserting the cable.

Went for a night test drive. Yup the speedo is working again and the car handles just fine. Much better suspension travel over bumps.  I do need to raise the rear springs another inch as the front of the car is at 23" to the edge of the top fender lip and 22" at the rear of the fender lip. The angle is backwards.  Will tackle in the morning. I'm too tired and I have a British Car show to go to tomorrow. "Brits at the Village" at Peddlers Village. Always a great show and everybody is very friendly. Should be fun.
 
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Re: Restoration of 2358R
« Reply #1248 on: Friday,October 11, 2019, 11:09:35 PM »
Certified: a couple of questions.  What is the height of your TC at the top of the roof?  From the bottom of the door to the ground?  And what size tires are you using?

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Re: Restoration of 2358R
« Reply #1249 on: Saturday,October 12, 2019, 03:57:28 AM »
Certified: a couple of questions.  What is the height of your TC at the top of the roof?  From the bottom of the door to the ground?  And what size tires are you using?

L/M

Height at top of roof: 42”
Bottom of door to ground: 12 1/4 “
Front tires: 175/70R/13
Rear Tires: 185/70R/13

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Re: Restoration of 2358R
« Reply #1250 on: Saturday,October 12, 2019, 08:00:48 AM »
Certified: Thanks for doing that.  Your car is pretty close to perfect so I wanted to compare your settings to mine.  I am am 40 1/2 " at the roof and 10 1/2 " from the bottom of the door.  My tires are 185/60R/13 front and 205/60R/13 at the rear.  I am running 10" / 150 lb springs at the front and 12" 120 lbs at the rear. The sixties series tires lower the car about an inch as compared to the seventy series. 
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Re: Restoration of 2358R
« Reply #1251 on: Saturday,October 12, 2019, 10:01:41 AM »
Dave, I wouldn't say immaculate, maybe organized.....

I have a habit of putting my tools away every night. Wipe them down and put them back where they belong. Doesn't matter that I working on something the next day.  The tools always get put away.
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Re: Restoration of 2358R
« Reply #1252 on: Saturday,October 12, 2019, 03:00:11 PM »
Thanks for the comparison measurements L/M. Any idea what your car weights?

Dave, yup, looks like your shop bench  :FUNNY: :FUNNY:

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Re: Restoration of 2358R
« Reply #1253 on: Saturday,October 12, 2019, 03:47:17 PM »
Spectacular weather day here in the Princeton area. Blue skies, crisp weather and fall colors on the trees. It was just magnificent.

Got up early this morning and jacked up the back of the car to adjust another inch on the rear coil over shocks. Lowered it and decided I needed to wait until I drove the car for everything to settle before making more measurements.

The drive to Peddler’s Village where the ”Brits at the Village” car show was located is about 30 miles of mostly back roads going through Lambertville and New Hope (river towns with shops and restaurants) connected by a small bridge over the Delaware.

Great turn out at the British car show, but only three Lotus’. A really nice Caterham, an equally nice Evora and my Europa. Spent the day answering lots of questions and receiving lots of complements on my Europa. A lot of people were stunned that I did the frame off restoration. The best ending was that I won first prize  :trophy:

More importantly, the new suspension set up is perfect! I should have left well enough alone when I first installed the 10” 150 lb springs instead of looking for a more radical “boy racer” stance and lowering with the 8” 140 lb springs.
The ride is much more gentle. No hard bumps or crashing onto the bump stops.  The car isn’t as darty (the camber is now to spec) and I’m not scanning the road all the time for any possible bumps.

My friend Bruce showed up at the show and we talked about the shifter tube hitting the speedo cable. We shifted the tube through all the gears while parked and saw that it’s third gear that hits the speedo cable. Bruce also has a 72 Europa so he was going to check his car when he got home. Yup, he sent me a picture later in the day, his shift tube hits the speedo cable in third gear too. The difference is the PO  installed a metal cable holder to keep the cable away from the shift tube. Anyone else have any insights on this?

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Re: Restoration of 2358R
« Reply #1254 on: Saturday,October 12, 2019, 05:28:24 PM »
Congratulations on your First Prize!!  :beerchug:

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Re: Restoration of 2358R
« Reply #1255 on: Saturday,October 12, 2019, 07:58:42 PM »
Certified: 1,491 lbs. That is with a 1/3 tank of gas and both boosters, but no spare or tube and pretty much all of the same aluminum switch-outs as you car.  The two boosters weigh in tandem about 25 lbs. combined.   93 octane gas is 6.35 lbs per gallon.  So figure a 1/3 tank is about 32 lbs.  If you are looking '60s British kerb weight numbers to compare to, about 1,460 lbs.  In the US Today, curb weight includes a full tank of gas.  Back then it was water and oil usually a 1/3 tank or no gas.  I am pretty sure Chapman would have measured kerb weight of Lotus cars with no petrol.

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Re: Restoration of 2358R
« Reply #1256 on: Sunday,October 13, 2019, 07:09:29 AM »
Glen the picture shows I have about a finger with clearance between shifter tube and cable in 3rd gear ?
And I installed the clamp.
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Re: Restoration of 2358R
« Reply #1257 on: Sunday,October 13, 2019, 07:19:07 AM »
Thanks Bruce.  I will make the same modification.

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Re: Restoration of 2358R
« Reply #1258 on: Sunday,October 13, 2019, 07:22:09 AM »
Now that my restoration is completed (a few small items to finish) and I've received recognition from a couple of cars shows with it,  the Europa is for sale.  See my ad in the for sale posts. Somebody is going to get a well sorted Europa Twin Cam.

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Re: Restoration of 2358R
« Reply #1259 on: Sunday,October 13, 2019, 07:37:18 AM »
Hi CL.  I've read all your restoration epic since getting my TCS a few months ago, and have just watched your Lotus Porn Road Trip video.  I hope you've enjoyed your time with the car as much I've enjoyed reading about it.  I'm sure your restoration thread will be a well used reference for a long time.  I hope you will still be loitering around the Forum for many years to come and glad to see you are selling by choice rather than being forced to.

Here's a picture of my bench for the "Bench Competition. (You can just see it peeping out behind the drivers door (UK car!) if you are having difficulty finding it)