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Jim Clark & Indy 38 at Swiss Hillclimb
« on: Saturday,January 16, 2016, 12:31:44 AM »
Switzerland, famous for its alpine mountains was the backdrop for this once famous hill climb.
 Back in the day, the 4.97 mile De Cotes Orsanne Les Raingers to Ollons Villard event was held on these scenic twisting roads. I thought you would like to know that the Lotus 38 was more than an oval winner and used only for selected USAC races.

Team Lotus was in a pickle, Clark who had participated twice before and Chapman wanted desperately to be ready in between  Brands Hatch however, a planned purpose built car was never to be built, the type 33 was ruled out and the MK 2 Climax was too tired  and thought to be under powered to tackle the altitude. So, they rolled out the 38...mind you they made the race but had a tough go...Clark spun off course during trials and spent much of the afternoon among the sheep and pastures making his way back. He did however set a time of 4:34 compared to Scarfotti's Ferrari winning time of 4:09 with the F1 206 monoposto. The heavy 4.2 Ford motor was not suited to deliver low end torque needed for the 7 turn incline.   

Many famous drivers were to participate during it's tenure including Fangio, Stirling Moss & Louis Chrion.
 In 1967 no less than 21 former and current F1 pilots took to the hills with over 200 entrants to delight 40 thousand spectators.

Special thanks to my Facebook Jim Clark memorabilia friends for the pictures. ld
       
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Re: Jim Clark & Indy 38 at Swiss Hillclimb
« Reply #1 on: Saturday,January 16, 2016, 04:16:16 AM »
Great pics again, Lou!

Was that the first open wheel car with inboard front suspension?

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Re: Jim Clark & Indy 38 at Swiss Hillclimb
« Reply #2 on: Saturday,January 16, 2016, 07:04:01 AM »
Nope.

First Lotus open wheeler with inboard suspension was the 21.

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Re: Jim Clark & Indy 38 at Swiss Hillclimb
« Reply #3 on: Saturday,January 16, 2016, 08:08:41 AM »
Nope.

First Lotus open wheeler with inboard suspension was the 21.

Correct...First Lotus was the type 21...But not the first open wheel F1 car to use it. Maserati used inboard front coils in their front engine cars in the late 1940's. Lotus was first to develop for rear engine followed by the T73 Cooper. ld 
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Re: Jim Clark & Indy 38 at Swiss Hillclimb
« Reply #4 on: Saturday,January 16, 2016, 09:38:49 AM »
Thanks John & Lou! I just noticed it on that car and it was something I never noticed on other cars before the 72. I need to look closer!

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Re: Jim Clark & Indy 38 at Swiss Hillclimb
« Reply #5 on: Saturday,January 16, 2016, 01:02:57 PM »
Lou, I think you'll find that Maserati indeed used inboard coils, but not coilovers (coil springs around tubular dampers).
Also Moss's name is Stirling - no "e".

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Re: Jim Clark & Indy 38 at Swiss Hillclimb
« Reply #6 on: Saturday,January 16, 2016, 02:44:10 PM »
Lou, I think you'll find that Maserati indeed used inboard coils, but not coilovers (coil springs around tubular dampers).
Also Moss's name is Stirling - no "e".

Platitudes Roger...I try to be as factual as possible, fixed those errors...Thanks

I did do a little more digging...Via the Doug Nye book...Lotus did do an 8 event exhibition before its return to Ford. This was also verified in the UK Motor Sport magazine from 1965. They both confirmed that it was the brickyard winner. According to their web page Jim had 6 runs in total that weekend.

The last event classified towards the FIA Worlds Championship was in 1971...
The record time of 3:47:05 is held by Francois Cevert in a Tecno F2. After finishing he was quoted to say...nearly falling off the edges "it was his most dangerous drive ever" vowing never to do it again. Sadly quite prophetic.  ld

   
   

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Re: Jim Clark & Indy 38 at Swiss Hillclimb
« Reply #7 on: Saturday,January 16, 2016, 03:34:37 PM »
If that hill climb is anything like Pikes Peak, I don't know why anybody does them at all! Going up Pikes Peak, the road at times seems to disappear. It could be cresting, or it could be turning. If you think it's cresting and it isn't, you go over the side of the mountain because there are NO guard rails!

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Re: Jim Clark & Indy 38 at Swiss Hillclimb
« Reply #8 on: Monday,January 18, 2016, 10:05:32 AM »
Cheers Lou. Very interesting stuff. Coincidentally I was just reading a Jim Clark article last week which talked about racing the 38 at this event, something I was previously unaware of. Another comment in the article I found interesting regarded testing of the 38 at Oulton Park. With symetrical control arms fitted to the suspensions (the oval racing configuration as raced at Indy had assymetrical length control arms) the 38 easily lapped at F1 times whilst using only two gears. This was probably still during the 1.5 litre formula, so maybe not astounding news, but I thought interesting nonetheless.
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Re: Jim Clark & Indy 38 at Swiss Hillclimb
« Reply #9 on: Monday,January 18, 2016, 10:08:29 AM »
Thank you for sharing Lou great pictures :coolpic:

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Re: Jim Clark & Indy 38 at Swiss Hillclimb
« Reply #10 on: Thursday,January 28, 2016, 04:53:17 PM »
Jim and his two finger victory salute...Brickyard winner and the famous Lotus 38 of 1965.

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Re: Jim Clark & Indy 38 at Swiss Hillclimb
« Reply #11 on: Thursday,January 28, 2016, 04:59:10 PM »
Nice picture again, Lou!

I wonder if the offset made that much difference...

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Re: Jim Clark & Indy 38 at Swiss Hillclimb
« Reply #12 on: Friday,August 26, 2016, 07:54:11 PM »
Dug up these old treasures...enjoy!

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Re: Jim Clark & Indy 38 at Swiss Hillclimb
« Reply #13 on: Friday,August 26, 2016, 08:19:07 PM »
More great pictures, Lou! Thanks!

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Re: Jim Clark & Indy 38 at Swiss Hillclimb
« Reply #14 on: Monday,August 29, 2016, 08:39:30 AM »
Thanks Lou. I was reading about this event recently. It must have been a fun day out for the F1 drivers present.
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