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Offline TurboFource

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Re: Twin Cam vs Renault
« Reply #15 on: Friday,October 04, 2019, 03:53:47 PM »
How rare/expensive is putting a crossflow head on a Renault motor?
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Re: Twin Cam vs Renault
« Reply #16 on: Friday,October 04, 2019, 04:37:07 PM »
   I’m in the process of building a crossflow and a wedge . There are differences, new cam/ fussy , tappets ,timing chain assembly with gears. After you find the new cam you send it out for a regrind .
Then headers , intake manifold , carbs.
It’s also my first time building these motors. I had the same questions and The real pros here answered and are guiding me . Read 0453 reassembly / garage ,later pages.
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Re: Twin Cam vs Renault
« Reply #17 on: Friday,October 04, 2019, 05:46:31 PM »
Different pistons, cam, distributor (longer shaft), and, obviously, head, manifolds and valve gear.

Best to find a complete engine.  Preferably earlier as they had more of the “good” stuff.

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Re: Twin Cam vs Renault
« Reply #18 on: Friday,October 04, 2019, 08:38:03 PM »
I've heard of crossflow, hemi, and wedge Renault engines.  I'm curious, but probably none of this will apply to me as I have a Twin Cam and by the time I get the thing all fixed-up I may be old and grey.

My question is, what came with the Europas?  Are some of these engines from other cars but will fit a Europa, or did they come stock with different iterations or in different years / eras?  And, like, which one when?  Are the blocks all the same, different, or "all but..."? 

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Re: Twin Cam vs Renault
« Reply #19 on: Friday,October 04, 2019, 10:18:28 PM »
The S1/2 came stock with first a 1470 wedge head and then a 1565 wedge.  The crossflows were not available to Lotus but they could easily be found from wrecks or as crate engines.  Fitting a crossflow is a very common mod.  The crossflow was used in some models of  the R8, R12, R16, R15, R17, R18, Fuego, Alpine A110/310 and more.  Crossflows were available in mild 80 hp (807-10) all the way up to 130-ish (807G) and, in racing crate engines, 160 hp.  The highest output I have heard of is 220-ish but, of course, a full race tune.

The blocks are all similar but not the same.  Spigot size changed, liners went from gasket to o-ring bottom seals, early blocks have different mount holes than later blocks (though later blocks can be adapted).

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Re: Twin Cam vs Renault
« Reply #20 on: Friday,October 04, 2019, 11:35:30 PM »
Vince,
I'm like you with a TC so it's mostly academic interest on the engines with a bit more "just in case" interest on the gearboxes.  This page has a good reference to what's what and will probably tell you more than you'll ever need to know !

http://www.syer.net/donor_cars.htm

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Re: Twin Cam vs Renault
« Reply #21 on: Saturday,October 05, 2019, 05:37:49 AM »
Thank you both for the good information.

-V