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Title: Hachille door hinge conversion kits S2/TC
Post by: Richard48Y on Wednesday,January 08, 2025, 01:22:20 PM
I am very close to having door hinge conversion kits fully sorted and ready to sell.
The S2/TC doors require a custom bushing that I am 3D printing.
Material is cheap but the time to print is long.
The hinge balls are inexpensive but the required hardware is not.
The weight savings are very good even with steel hardware.
What I like most about this conversion is that no parts will be wearing the bobbins in either the sills or doors.
I will update this post as soon as I arrive at a retail price.
Title: Re: Hachille door hinge conversion kits S2/TC
Post by: TurboFource on Wednesday,January 08, 2025, 01:52:23 PM
 8)
Title: Re: Hachille door hinge conversion kits S2/TC
Post by: cazman on Wednesday,January 08, 2025, 04:33:56 PM
Can't wait
Title: Re: Hachille door hinge conversion kits S2/TC
Post by: Richard48Y on Wednesday,January 08, 2025, 05:08:37 PM
I am about to try to print some taper washers.
They can be bought but are expensive.
Title: Re: Hachille door hinge conversion kits S2/TC
Post by: Richard48Y on Wednesday,January 08, 2025, 06:16:21 PM
Final rendition of the adapter bushings is done.
Printer will run 24/7 for a few days.
Making enough pieces for ten cars in this first run.
That is forty bushings, the first eight are mine.
No problem at all to make more as needed.
Not sure what the demand will be, just that I will not get rich off these.
This has been great CAD practice for me, I'm almost good with surfaces and making 3D objects from a single dimension.

Next up will be making the adapter bushings for the bolt to hinge.
Those are coming off my manual lathe as the CNC is not running yet.
They are not difficult and I intend to incorporate a taper shoulder for full articulation of the hinge.
Taper washers and shoulders may be overkill, I need to assemble a door to confirm.
And to take pics/video for assembly instructions.

Pics added. These drop into the door bushings, no drill required.
Title: Re: Hachille door hinge conversion kits S2/TC
Post by: Richard48Y on Saturday,January 11, 2025, 05:14:18 PM
A small update.
I have found that for S2/TC the simple way to install these is to remove the mud guard at the rear of the wheel well.
No need to cut any access holes inside the car.  :)
Title: Re: Hachille door hinge conversion kits S2/TC
Post by: TurboFource on Saturday,January 11, 2025, 06:07:16 PM
For upper and lower Richard?
Title: Re: Hachille door hinge conversion kits S2/TC
Post by: Richard48Y on Saturday,January 11, 2025, 06:17:18 PM
Yes, both.
I may actually get a door hung tomorrow and take pics along the way.
Bolts will be 5/16" as they are more available here than 8mm.
Title: Re: Hachille door hinge conversion kits S2/TC
Post by: TurboFource on Sunday,January 12, 2025, 04:24:09 AM
Nice! Looking forward to pics!
Title: Re: Hachille door hinge conversion kits S2/TC
Post by: TurboFource on Sunday,January 12, 2025, 01:45:39 PM
Any luck hanging a door?

The inserts aren't PLA?
Title: Re: Hachille door hinge conversion kits S2/TC
Post by: Richard48Y on Sunday,January 12, 2025, 04:22:56 PM
Been tied up fixing the Blunderbird.
Yes PLA, cheap but SLOW to make.
Printing a dozen at a time.
Going into the shop now to see what adjustments I have to make for the aluminum parts.
Then make a set.
Door hang may need a second pair of hands, I will see ASAP.
Title: Re: Hachille door hinge conversion kits S2/TC
Post by: Richard48Y on Sunday,January 12, 2025, 06:31:08 PM
Made a first attempt at hanging a door.
I had to modify the aluminum bushing, the head was way too thick.
Pics below.

If my VMC was up and running I would make these in aluminum.
More expensive but SO much faster!
For now I have to use the machine available.
I've modified a set of bushings so may get a door fully fit up tomorrow.

A concern has been raised about PLA and heat.
The door hinge area sees very little heat, PLA may begin to get soft at around 150º F?
It prints at 200º F.
If necessary there may be stronger filaments available but I expect PLA to be fine.

I need to add up component cost tonight so that I may post up retail pricing.
My margin will not be huge, so these may be almost more a courtesy than a product.
Title: Re: Hachille door hinge conversion kits S2/TC
Post by: Richard48Y on Monday,January 13, 2025, 01:46:13 AM
Added up components.
I will be making the S2/TC bearing adapter by 3D print and the aluminum bushings on my lathe.
The rest will be ordered in bulk.
All stainless hardware.
USPS flat-rate shipping is included.
Have to make a little on them, so $100.00 for both doors seems pretty fair.

A show of hands to get an idea for how many kits to make parts for initially would be good to have.
If I need to keep printing it goes faster when the Ender is already warmed up.
Title: Re: Hachille door hinge conversion kits S2/TC
Post by: TurboFource on Monday,January 13, 2025, 05:45:02 AM
Do you have a pic showing access from inside the wheel well?
Title: Re: Hachille door hinge conversion kits S2/TC
Post by: Richard48Y on Monday,January 13, 2025, 10:21:25 AM
I hope to get pics and hang a door today.
Car is up on tall stands so I need someone to hold the door for me.
Title: Re: Hachille door hinge conversion kits S2/TC
Post by: dakazman on Monday,January 13, 2025, 03:22:53 PM
  You need to make the base eccentric with a pivoting fulcrum. I'll send you some pics of such an object.
Dakazman
Title: Re: Hachille door hinge conversion kits S2/TC
Post by: Richard48Y on Monday,January 13, 2025, 05:06:21 PM
I do have a door mostly mounted but not tight or adjusted.
It really is a two man operation. Particularly if protecting good paint.
I did confirm that this may be done without cutting new access holes into the inner sill.
Cutting a lower access hole would make it simpler but it really is not too bad using the openings at the rear of the wheel well.
I will use slightly shorter bolts in the future.
The bolts are inserted from the door.
Lower nut may be tightened from the original hinge access point.
Top nut is not hard to reach from the wheel well.
Painters tape helps to hold shim washers in place while juggling the bits.
I may get slotted washers to make height adjustment easier.
The system provides a lot of adjustment, more than will ever be used.
I need to find a helper so that I may do a documented installation.

Wheel arch pics, not the best camera.
Title: Re: Hachille door hinge conversion kits S2/TC
Post by: TurboFource on Wednesday,January 15, 2025, 01:36:59 PM
Did you finish door installation Richard?
Title: Re: Hachille door hinge conversion kits S2/TC
Post by: Richard48Y on Wednesday,January 15, 2025, 05:27:33 PM
I have a door hung but not fully adjusted.
Today was an emergency repair to the DD.
I am going to see about getting some help to finish the door.
Title: Re: Hachille door hinge conversion kits S2/TC
Post by: TurboFource on Friday,January 24, 2025, 04:33:54 AM
Were you able to get the door adjusted etc.?
Title: Re: Hachille door hinge conversion kits S2/TC
Post by: Richard48Y on Friday,January 24, 2025, 08:38:10 PM
Been busy and it is COLD in the shop.
Cannot get a second pair of hands, maybe some paint sticks and tape to hold the door in place?
I do hope to get it done over the weekend.

Hachille has no issue with my giving him credit for the idea, so I guess it will be the Hachille conversion.
Hmm, I did have to create the adapters, maybe the HachMan conversion?
Title: Re: Hachille door hinge conversion kits S2/TC
Post by: Richard48Y on Saturday,February 01, 2025, 04:48:17 PM
I made another attempt at fitting a door today.
Nope, a two-man job.
But I did determine that I may need to do this with the door that came off the car.
Not certain how well doors should interchange and fit, but when I had four of six gaps great the others were terrible.
I recall threads here of doors and door frames being modified for improved fit.
Once my auction closes I will be able to hire some help and get this done.