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Title: Why all the Goop?
Post by: FourLoti on Saturday,August 26, 2023, 09:10:17 AM
Hi:

Pretty sure this was not done on the assembly line :)  Or maybe it was?

Before I dig it out, is there a common reason why people wound need/want to seal up the top radiator hose bulkhead passage?  Should I leave it alone? (after excavating the wiring harness and WS washer tube!)

Thanks,

Ron
Title: Re: Why all the Goop?
Post by: 4129R on Saturday,August 26, 2023, 09:58:23 AM
It looks like the same stuff that is painted on the cardboard wheel arch closers.
Title: Re: Why all the Goop?
Post by: Bainford on Saturday,August 26, 2023, 12:11:11 PM
Sealing any holes where air can escape is commonly done to improve cooling system efficiency. Blocking leaks ensures as much of the air as possible coming in through the grill, exits through the radiator. Of course, some of that air is also used for interior ventilation, and any leaks in the forward compartment will reduce efficiency there, too. The bonnet would have been factory sealed with a foam strip (on the underside of the bonnet) to the top edge of the plenum bulkhead, and sealed to the body around its lower edges, again to improve efficiency of this system.

Having said that, there are more elegant sealing solutions than the current tar job.
Title: Re: Why all the Goop?
Post by: dakazman on Saturday,August 26, 2023, 12:12:29 PM
Maybe he forgot to add the coolant tube rubber spacer and was getting vibrating noise.
 Just a thought
Dakazman
Title: Re: Why all the Goop?
Post by: FourLoti on Sunday,September 03, 2023, 12:55:35 PM
Thanks everyone. Now, to cover it correctly!

Ron

Title: Re: Why all the Goop?
Post by: Fotog on Sunday,September 03, 2023, 02:28:19 PM
I don't know what I'm looking at.  What am I seeing beneath the hose?
Title: Re: Why all the Goop?
Post by: FourLoti on Monday,September 04, 2023, 07:15:13 AM
Nothing. Just the oversized hole going through to the front face of the chassis.

Ron
Title: Re: Why all the Goop?
Post by: 4129R on Monday,September 04, 2023, 09:39:01 AM
I have just made a metal plate in two halves, to close the hole around the bottom hose. I sprayed it matt black, and pop-riveted it in place.

Any leak other than through the radiator, will reduce the natural cooling of the radiator from air through the grill at speed.

As the car was made in Norfolk, here in Norfolk, we call that black stuff "gunge".
Title: Re: Why all the Goop?
Post by: Lotuswins on Monday,September 04, 2023, 11:16:09 AM
I went through an apprinticeship as a marine electrician in a navy yard in my youth, and that stuff looks just like 'monkey shite' that we used to seal around cables to prevent damage due to vibration.  I believe my TCS had it around the wire only, not the coolant tube. 

3M makes similar material for sealing sheet metal or windshields (butyl rubber) if you wish to replace it.  Covering around the coolant tube will keep the air from escaping around the radiator, but the wiring hole leads directly into the cabin so that should be sealed up to prevent cool air from coming in during the winter.

Jerry Rude
4005R
Title: Re: Why all the Goop?
Post by: Pfreen on Monday,September 04, 2023, 03:00:14 PM
I used a length of small diameter rubber tubing and slit it lengthwise.  Then, I used an appropriate
 length of slit tubing as a grommet to prevent shaffing of the rubber coolant hose. 
Title: Re: Why all the Goop?
Post by: FourLoti on Monday,September 04, 2023, 06:32:36 PM
Thanks everyone. I plan to fabricate a two part plate as mentioned. Or, I may have some 1/16 plastic sheet that I can slip around.

I should have kept a photo of the heavy wad I removed. Don't think Chapman's quote was, "Simplify, and then add goop."

Ron
Title: Re: Why all the Goop?
Post by: Bryan Boyle on Tuesday,September 05, 2023, 10:52:10 AM
Thanks everyone. Now, to cover it correctly!

Ron



While it was open...I'd snake an extra length of heavier gauge wire through there...just in case at some point you want to upgrade your headlight system to a relay-switched arrangement to take some of the load off the column high/low switch.  It's easier to do on the S2 (where the harness to the front goes through the front right wheelwell), but doable (with care) on the TC where the harness stays inside the body.
Title: Re: Why all the Goop?
Post by: Fotog on Tuesday,September 05, 2023, 10:59:42 AM
My front plenum was very roughly cut.  Much larger holes than needed for the hoses.  I made these fiberglass pieces to cover the excess in an effort not to give up air through the radiator.  One on the left (notice the screw) is painted.  The on on the right is not.

Vince
Title: Re: Why all the Goop?
Post by: Mike Mileski on Tuesday,September 05, 2023, 11:14:07 AM
Sealsit.com

A variety of firewall type seals.

Mike Mileski
Tucson, AZ