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Title: Superlatives and facts about the Europa
Post by: LotusEuropa on Sunday,January 29, 2023, 01:49:54 AM
Hi,

Thinking of the Europa I am occasionally coming back to the following:

I think all of us are aware of the different tastes - some really like their design, others absolutely hate it. Also the power output was okay back then, but far from stunning.
What you cannot debate is that there are some superlatives and cool facts about our cars.

I want to list why I believe the cars are something special and why it should get more attention than it actually gets out there. And if not is the solely fact, it is the combination of them what defines the Europa.
You can see most of them both from back in time and from today's perspective
It is not that I try to justify why I love the car, it is about to see what the car really characterizes. And looking back 56 years after SOP I believe some of the listed facts are getting more and more impressive.

I am sure you can add some points to it, so please feel free to do so.
Title: Re: Superlatives and facts about the Europa
Post by: jbcollier on Sunday,January 29, 2023, 08:08:16 AM
It all started with the Seven and Colin's efforts to replace it with something cheaper to build.  That's how the Elan started ( the Elan's origami chassis was a 1/3 of the price of a Seven's) and the Europa as well.  Both times they went upmarket due to drivetrain and body costs and the Seven soldier on.
Title: Re: Superlatives and facts about the Europa
Post by: Dilkris on Sunday,January 29, 2023, 08:46:30 AM
I am told the only car lower in height was (is) the Ford GT40 at 1029mm - is this correct?
Title: Re: Superlatives and facts about the Europa
Post by: EuropaTC on Sunday,January 29, 2023, 11:38:35 PM
The original Marcos 1800 was about the same, 1054mm from an internet search.

There was a fashion for low cars at one point and I can remember looking at a Costin Amigo and thinking "how would I get in that ?". The lowest I can think of was the Adams Probe 16, shown at a few motor shows and also used in the film Clockwork Orange. Now that's a low car....   34"

Brian
Title: Re: Superlatives and facts about the Europa
Post by: Dilkris on Monday,January 30, 2023, 06:37:28 AM

"........how would I get in that ?".

Brian

As I get older Brian I find myself having more difficulty in getting out of what I have actually managed to get into.....   :FUNNY:
Title: Re: Superlatives and facts about the Europa
Post by: LotusEuropa on Monday,January 30, 2023, 07:28:28 AM
I am told the only car lower in height was (is) the Ford GT40 at 1029mm - is this correct?

Both, the Lamborghini Miura (1.055mm) and the Countach (1.070mm) are also slightly lower, according to Wikipedia.
Title: Re: Superlatives and facts about the Europa
Post by: lotusfanatic on Tuesday,January 31, 2023, 05:00:57 AM
I loved the small pink/purple matchbox model that I had when I was a child in the 1970s.

(and I love the fact that the Europa has remained ever so slightly bonkers !
Title: Re: Superlatives and facts about the Europa
Post by: Roger on Tuesday,January 31, 2023, 09:07:44 AM
It all started with the Seven and Colin's efforts to replace it with something cheaper to build.  That's how the Elan started ( the Elan's origami chassis was a 1/3 of the price of a Seven's) and the Europa as well.  Both times they went upmarket due to drivetrain and body costs and the Seven soldier on.

I think Elite rather than Seven...
Title: Re: Superlatives and facts about the Europa
Post by: jbcollier on Tuesday,January 31, 2023, 01:22:38 PM
No, the Seven made money, they lost money on every Elite made.  The Seven CBU was expensive.  Everything else for the car was as cheap as chips.
Title: Re: Superlatives and facts about the Europa
Post by: Dilkris on Wednesday,February 01, 2023, 03:26:38 AM
The Seven CBU was expensive. 
Hi John - What does CBU stand for?
Title: Re: Superlatives and facts about the Europa
Post by: jbcollier on Wednesday,February 01, 2023, 04:41:56 AM
Chassis

Body

Unit

With Elites (first generation), Sevens and early Europas, the body and chassis are one part/unit.