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Title: Steering wheel nut - added information regarding horn push
Post by: RafM on Saturday,November 06, 2021, 05:05:32 AM
1973 Twin cam

Would anyone know the thread size for the steering wheel securing nut?

Thanks, Raf.
Title: Re: Steering wheel nut
Post by: jbcollier on Saturday,November 06, 2021, 05:42:05 AM
9/16 Whitworth, why do you ask?
Title: Re: Steering wheel nut
Post by: RafM on Saturday,November 06, 2021, 07:13:25 AM
Thanks for the info jbbcollier,

Getting to the last stages of my rebuild, the car came in pieces from the PO.

I have a nut which appears to be correct but won't go on, just checking in case I need to get a tap & die to clean up
the threads (which look ok)

Title: Re: Steering wheel nut
Post by: BDA on Saturday,November 06, 2021, 09:42:38 AM
IIRC, the hex of that nut is 1 1/8”. It’s a thin nut. I didn’t know it was Whitworth. I will make quadruple dog sure I don’t lose it!
Title: Re: Steering wheel nut
Post by: jbcollier on Saturday,November 06, 2021, 05:41:06 PM
The nuts are readily available from any British sports car parts shop as they are from Triumph Spitfires.

I think it’s 26 tpi, you could get a thread file and touch up the threads on the column.
Title: Re: Steering wheel nut
Post by: 4129R on Sunday,November 07, 2021, 04:31:49 AM
The nuts are readily available from any British sports car parts shop as they are from Triumph Spitfires.

I think it’s 26 tpi, you could get a thread file and touch up the threads on the column.

I could not find it shown on Rimmer Bros exploded steering diagrams.
Title: Re: Steering wheel nut
Post by: SilverBeast on Sunday,November 07, 2021, 04:58:15 AM
I believe its item 25 here https://www.moss-europe.co.uk/shop-by-model/triumph/spitfire/steering-suspension/steering/steering-column-upper-spitfire-mki-1500-1962-80.html (https://www.moss-europe.co.uk/shop-by-model/triumph/spitfire/steering-suspension/steering/steering-column-upper-spitfire-mki-1500-1962-80.html)

£4.60 from Moss Europe
Title: Re: Steering wheel nut
Post by: jbcollier on Sunday,November 07, 2021, 06:42:59 AM
On the Rimmer site, the nut is listed with steering wheels, not the column:

https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-105438

You'd also want the washer/clip that goes underneath:

https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-204741

(it's listed with the horn push)
Title: Re: Steering wheel nut
Post by: 4129R on Sunday,November 07, 2021, 07:04:16 AM
On the Rimmer site, the nut is listed with steering wheels, not the column:

https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-105438

You'd also want the washer/clip that goes underneath:

https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-204741

(it's listed with the horn push)

The nut behind the steering wheel was hard to spot !!!
Title: Re: Steering wheel nut
Post by: Sandyman on Tuesday,November 09, 2021, 04:11:43 AM
And I thought that I was the loose nut behind the wheel. :FUNNY:
Title: Re: Steering wheel nut
Post by: RafM on Wednesday,November 10, 2021, 03:20:54 PM
1972 Twin Cam

I've fixed the problem but it's not straightforward.

As the car was bought as a half done project it's not clear what parts came off of the original and what have been sourced along the way. I have found plenty of
parts that are not correct for a TC (or even a Europa)

The steering wheel boss was shorting against he slip ring (photo 1) as soon as it was placed on the column. I made some adjustments to the centre column to create a gap
and added insulation tape in a few places.

Pic 2 is the back of the boss, the spring contact rubs against the slip ring on the column cowl to pass the 12v supply, the cable goes through the wheel into the horn push.

Pic 3 is the back of the horn push showing the 12v supply cable.

Pic 4 is the front of the horn push showing the metal contact rings that make the circuit when you push the horn. It's a sprung loaded mechanism that is insulated from the rest of the
wheel & boss. The green side is the earth route, the red circle shows the gap and the 12v supply is connected to the top ring.

Pic 5 is the horn push on the wheel, the washer and nut hold it all in place and the centre cap clips in place on top.

With this type of horn there is no contact 'pencil' or cage fitting used. I'm not certain the column and steering wheel are actually a correct match but I have made it
work nicely. The wheel sits perfectly within the steering column.

Hope this is useful if you get similar problems.