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Lotus Europa Forums => Garage => Topic started by: Pete on Friday,April 09, 2021, 02:42:23 PM
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My car seems to have two types of fuel filter. But I don’t know what type this one is? When I took it off the large o ring came out and it has expanded. So I won’t fit back in. But I can’t see a name of the type of filter it is. So don’t know what to order.
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Unless there is a manufacturer name of the part, you may up up the proverbial creek in finding a replacement element for what looks like an aftermarket cannister fuel filter. The only suggestion is to Google "cannister fuel filter element" to see if any of those will fit. If not there are a ton of inline fuel filters out there. that you can use.
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I agree, that looks an aftermarket part which might be hard to source without some more detail, is there anything underneath the base ?
On the plus side, if the rubber O ring has expanded then it's absorbed fuel, swollen and probably softened as well. If you leave it in the open air for a few days, with any luck it will desorb and go back to roughly the original size so you might get away with re-fitting it.
Of course the rubber shouldn't do that, such a reaction points to the wrong material but if it's worked for years without leaks then.... experience trumps theory.
If you want a new O ring though you should be able to measure up where it fits and get something fuel resistant off the shelf ?
Brian
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Same as fitted to very early Range Rover and our old workshop heater, I'll see if I have the part number at work on Monday
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That would be great thanks
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This looks similar and is of Land Rover origin.
Link to a place in Speke.
https://www.lrparts.net/catalog/product/view/id/332694/s/nrc9786/
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Cheers. Just ordered one
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They come as elements, about £4.00
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This is what I thought was another fuel filter. But it’s what it says on the tin. Fuel saver.
Just looked into getting a new one to replace it. But videos on YouTube say they don’t work.
Anyone else use one?
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That looks like one of those scam devices that claims to give better fuel mileage. I’d lose it.
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What is the principle on which it is supposed to work?
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Who knows? Back in the '70s, just as there are today, there was a plethora of devices that claimed ridiculous improvements in fuel mileage. This "device" seems to be pretty old so the stated technology was probably pretty simple compared to the "devices" we have today.
I did a search for "fuel saver device" hoping to find an old ad for this device or something that looked like this one but instead I found more "sophisticated" "devices" that make the same exaggerated claims. I also found some tests of these devices that generally show either no improvement or loss of economy and performance. The difference between the devices today and those of the past is that they pretend to employ more sophisticated technology.
It's really humorous to read the claims for these devices!
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Yeah I was thinking of taking it out.
I know my uncle had done over 450k or 550k miles in that car. So no idea if he had found it worked for him? My auntie isn’t sure what the cars true mileage. The mot thinks it’s only done 53k. Lol
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400,000 miles is a lot for these cars. Even 400,000 kilometers is a lot so I think I would believe MOT but I have heard about one that logged over 250,000 miles (see story below).
This story was published in the US Lotus club, Lotus Ltd.'s, newsletter many years ago - when both I and my car were young. I've posted this before but rather than go searching for it, I'll just post it again. I don't think most will mind.
THE FIRST 250,000 MILES
During a recent conversation with the Renault-Europa tech rep, Glenn
Davis, he seemed kind of surprised to find out that I had put over a
quarter of a million miles on my Series One Europa since I purchased it
new in 1968. he suggested I chronicle some of the major milestones in my
ownership of the car for possible interest of the Lotus Limited members.
Basically, the car is boring. It doesn't run hot, the electrical system
is super and the fan motors all work, as does the wiper motor. The oil
pressure is high, and, except for a few wear items, the car is original.
However, here are some incidents in the car's life (which are all very
true).
Minus 20 miles: May 1968. Ask mother to drive me to dealer to pick up
new Lotus Europa 46-0491. Since totaled Healey is already there, she
tells me to thumb.
Zero miles: Am one of eight people to receive delivery out of 20 or so
wanting car. Refuse offers on the spot for $5500 ($1000 more than I
paid), and have often regretted stupidity.
+50 miles: Show up at work during lunch hour in new Lotus. Besieged by
office staff, including several beautiful young things. Sink into total
embarrassment when I can't find reverse. Push the car backwards into
space to tune of giggles.
+150 miles: Call salesman and tell him that *it* can be done in a
Europa! He laughs so hard I hang up. Stop by showroom on the way home to
show him bruised elbows. He still laughs.
+1000 miles: Drive car to Ohio to attend wedding. Get drunk and am
stopped by police. Cop agrees to follow me to motel only if he drives
Lotus; I follow in cruiser. No ticket.
+9000 miles: Car is three months old. Drive to Lime Rock to see races.
Spend rest of time pulling people off car. Burn out rear
wheel bearing on way home, but think this must be just a fluke.
+20,000 miles: Bruised elbows chronic and severe; must find new
position. Burn out rear wheel bearing again; must be the cheap replacement.
+50,000 miles: Find girlfriend with apartment; elbows improving. Burn
out wheel bearing and u-joints. Definitely problem is being caused by
u-joint failure leading to bearing failure.
+100,000 miles: Decide to start using heavier grade motor oil, because
the engines probably just broken in. At this same time, I feel that I
could rev the engine a little higher.
+125,000 miles: Truck backs into left headlight. Damage minor, but big
trucker calls me little bastard and calls car piece of s--- because he
didn't see me. Fight averted when he finds out I'm good friends with his
boss.
+130,000 miles: Next door neighbor backs into side of car with his
tailgate down. Damage minor, but he says he finally has to tell me that
anyone who owns one of those things has to be queer. I show him bruised
elbows, but he doesn't understand.
+150,000 miles: The year of the accident. Stopped at red light in down
town Lowell, Mass., and watching girl with beautiful "Hermes". Teenager
plows into rear end. I scream, "What the hell are you doing?" He says,
"Did you see the t--s on that?" I laugh, damage is minor, girl in nice
Hermes comes over to see commotion and I drive her home. She wants to
know what elbow pads are for.
+170,000 miles: Disaster! Clutch release bearing burns out. Replacement
cost is $22. Beginning to think car's not a good investment. Decide,
since motor removed, to rebuild entire engine myself. Get married. Wind
up in hospital after honeymoon. Rebuild takes two months. Only have two
extra pieces left over. Engine runs super.
+200,000 miles: Thinking about trading for a Camaro SS. Dealer offers me
$500 for toy car. I tell him to sit on it. He does, right on roof, and
laughs like hell. I tell him what SS stands for; he tells me to leave.
+210,000 miles: Loose carb linkage on Mass. Pike. Didn't need second
barrel anyway.
+225,000 miles: See stock market report on growth of ball bearing
company. Feel proud to have contributed to strong America in such a big
way. Move to Portsmouth, New Hampshire and commute only one mile to
work. Car should last forever!
+250,000 miles: Salt air in coastal N.H. likes frame in Lotus. Frame
falls in love and goes to pieces. Series One #46-0491 currently
undergoing top-to-bottom overhaul. Am shooting for another 250,000
miles. If only I could find out how to cure the wheel bearing problem.
EPILOGUE: When overhaul complete, car will be for sale. Got divorced
when wife noticed new bruises on elbows. make offer or will swap for
stock in bearing company. Call Dave (603) 431-4346 evenings.
- David Cordeau
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Lol. That’s great.
They used to travel all over Europe in it. Go to every lotus meet anywhere in the country. Or Europe. He used to use it as his work car. Right up until he got ill.
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I could believe 500k on your car, back in the 80s Roger was all over the country in it. I've never met any owner who was so "get out and drive it" as Roger.
If the MoT says 53k then it's 553k..... ;)
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I stand corrected then! Roger certainly used his Lotus for what it was designed for - driving!
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He wrote an article about it that was published in the Club Lotus magazine many years ago now, detailing quite a bit about the car, work done on it and from memory he mentioned the mileage to that date - which was multiple hundreds of thousands of miles!
I could be wrong but I’m fairly sure that JB posted a pic of at least one of the pages that included that article on something to do with adverts a while back...
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Trying to find the right engine oil for the car.
My auntie says 15w-40. Valvoline all climate.
Just want to make sure this is right?
It’s a Renault r16 ts engine.
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You're looking for oils with a high level of ZDDP or an oil that is designed for a "flat tappet" engine. Zinc was used as a high pressure lubricant with the introduction of catalytic converters that were harmed by the phosphorus in the ZDDP and IIRC, the zinc was bad for oxygen sensors and the introduction of roller cams, the zinc was taken out of the oil. Here's an article that explains it pretty well (https://www.hotrod.com/articles/ctrp-0807-flat-tappet-cam-lubricants/). There are lots of articles on the Interwebs that advise oils for flat tappet engines and explain the issue so they can be a source. Here's one example (https://autokitslab.com/best-oil-for-flat-tappet-cam-engine/). A shop that has experience with vintage engines should be able to help you too.
For myself, I've chosen Red Line 10w40. I don't know how available or economical that is for you in England.
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Any oil is better than none. That particular oil might not be my first choice.
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Found this oil in a local shop and the guy claims it will be okay??
But he is the guy trying to sell it. Lol
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I used Valvoline Racing for many years, for my cars & customer performance cars
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It will be ok. However, it is SL rated which means lower levels of additives.
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Mobil 1 20W-50 and Valvoline VR1 20W50 were recommended by Tim Engel in this message
https://groups.io/g/LotusEuropa/message/157850
It's worth a read for the explanation.
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That should be “Mobil 1 20W50 V-Twin”. It’s a very good oil.
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I remember that post by Tim because I copied it into a Word document for my records.
Has anyone heard from Tim? I have not seen a post from him for a while.
Dan