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Title: NEW MEMBER- CHESHIRE with an engine question
Post by: Taggart on Wednesday,February 24, 2021, 12:45:37 PM
Greetings, I am a new member having recently acquired a S2 with original Renault engine.
I have owned a Lancia for 20 years and recently sold it to move onto something more interesting!
The website is excellent and I have learned a lot about my new baby.

My car is in good nick just needing a bit of cosmetic improvement which I am working on in between working as a full time "Key Worker" at present.

I took the car for a good run last weekend to get it well warmed up and check everything was working. I noticed there was a considerable discharge from the swirl pot overflow when fully heated up. I had previously topped it up to the brim.

I know from my Lancia experience they did not like to be filled to the top and settled a bit below the top of the radiator.

With the wealth of experience on here does anybody think I should be concerned? I am thinking head joint or liner seal problems are a potential problem.

Any suggestions?   
Title: Re: NEW MEMBER- CHESHIRE with an engine question
Post by: Kendo on Wednesday,February 24, 2021, 01:05:17 PM
Hi Taggart, welcome to Bedlam.

I have a later model, so don't know all of the S2 details. But when you add coolant, there is a bleed screw on the top of the radiator to let air out of the system. It might be that you just have to spend a little more time in that topping up exercise.
Title: Re: NEW MEMBER- CHESHIRE with an engine question
Post by: JR73 on Wednesday,February 24, 2021, 01:13:05 PM
 :Welcome:
Pretty sure the swirl pot shouldn’t be brimmed to the top, as has been said it’s worth making sure that the rad is bled and there are no air locks.

You aren’t very far from me, roughly where are you in Warrington?

Only fair that you post some pictures of your car too!

Jon
Title: Re: NEW MEMBER- CHESHIRE with an engine question
Post by: BDA on Wednesday,February 24, 2021, 01:25:40 PM
 :Welcome: Taggert!!!

I concur with others here. I generally fill my swirl pot up to about half full or a little more. I think you got the expected result by topping it off.

I agree with Jon. We want to see pictures!!!

There is a size limit to pictures. Here is one method of resizing your pictures: http://www.lotuseuropa.org/LotusForum/index.php?topic=1379.0

Here is another: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_55eg00H-w&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: NEW MEMBER- CHESHIRE with an engine question
Post by: jbcollier on Wednesday,February 24, 2021, 03:05:48 PM
Renault engines have a true swirl pot.  As above, about half full cold.  If you fill it all the way up, it will push out coolant when the engine warms up so you have experienced nothing worrisome yet.

TC engines have an overflow tank which has some flow through it to remove air from the top rad hose.  47s had a lovely swirl pot a part of the thermostat housing.  I'd fit one if I had a TC engine.
Title: Re: NEW MEMBER- CHESHIRE with an engine question
Post by: literarymadness on Wednesday,February 24, 2021, 07:05:31 PM
 :Welcome:
Title: Re: NEW MEMBER- CHESHIRE with an engine question
Post by: EuropaTC on Wednesday,February 24, 2021, 10:53:55 PM
Hi Taggart, and another  :Welcome:

You've already had the answer on swirl pot filling although I suppose it's worth checking that the pressure cap seal is working properly as well.

The missus & I both come from Runcorn, just along the river from you,  although it's a long time since we were there. I used to be in Warrington Road Club (cycling) as well and as the nearest "big" town to Runcorn it used to be a popular trip back then.

Brian
Title: Re: NEW MEMBER- CHESHIRE with an engine question
Post by: dakazman on Thursday,February 25, 2021, 05:05:36 AM
 :Welcome:

 Taggart   
  Glad to hear about another S2 Renault powered 😃 Europa on the road. I’m not there yet, thanks for  helping me.
  Please post some pictures and keep it up. It’s your journey now and maybe after 20 years you can point to when all your fun started. 😂
Dakazman  0453R
Title: Re: NEW MEMBER- CHESHIRE with an engine question
Post by: lotusfanatic on Thursday,February 25, 2021, 07:32:18 AM
Hello Taggert!

 :Welcome:

Mark
Title: Re: NEW MEMBER- CHESHIRE with an engine question
Post by: Bainford on Thursday,February 25, 2021, 08:57:41 AM
Welcome to the forum, Taggart. As mentioned, it is powered by Europa photos We're always eager to see what is in everyone else's garage. Cheers  :beerchug:
Title: Re: NEW MEMBER- CHESHIRE with an engine question
Post by: SilverBeast on Thursday,February 25, 2021, 10:44:05 AM
 :Welcome:  I was raised in Sale (Brooklands actually) and first saw and sat in a Europa that was traded in at the Garage I worked at on Saturdays. My parents didn't feel that it would be a good idea lending me the money to buy it - probably because I wrote off my mum's Vauxhall Viva within 12 months of passing my test. And that was my second accident in it!
Title: Re: NEW MEMBER- CHESHIRE with an engine question
Post by: Taggart on Thursday,February 25, 2021, 11:00:46 AM
Many thanks for the kind welcomes and useful advice.

It looks like good weather this weekend so I will take the car for a run to check everything is ok.

I have attached a photo (I think) and will take some more at the weekend

The car was originally registered in Jersey then spent a good few years in France. It returned to UK in 2019.

The last owner appears to have spent a small fortune on it backed up by receipts. I think his money must have run out on the interior as it is all new parts but badly fitted with a lot of gaps etc. The heater cable and pedal rubbers are totally missing but nothing that cannot be sorted.

The car went through Bonhams Auction last summer, (on my birthday which must be an omen). It was bought by a dealer who was not able to shift it with all the Lockdown business going on so he was open to a negotiation and glad to move it on.

Thanks again.   
Title: Re: NEW MEMBER- CHESHIRE with an engine question
Post by: Broadside on Thursday,February 25, 2021, 11:38:07 AM
 :Welcome:
I think I saw that for sale recently, looks lovely!! We could be heading for a Shropshire/Staffordshire/Cheshire borders meet soon!!! :beerchug:
Graham
Title: Re: NEW MEMBER- CHESHIRE with an engine question
Post by: jbcollier on Thursday,February 25, 2021, 01:01:50 PM
As the engine is of unknown provenance, I would re-torque the cylinder head and adjust the valves over and above the usual oil and filter change.

(looks very nice!)
Title: Re: NEW MEMBER- CHESHIRE with an engine question
Post by: S2Zetec54 on Thursday,February 25, 2021, 02:29:32 PM
Welcome to the Forum, cracking looking Europa
Title: Re: NEW MEMBER- CHESHIRE with an engine question
Post by: dakazman on Thursday,February 25, 2021, 03:58:28 PM
  Single wiper and shaved out side lights😍😍😍  . Nice 👍👍
Dakazman
Title: Re: NEW MEMBER- CHESHIRE with an engine question
Post by: JR73 on Friday,February 26, 2021, 10:56:31 AM
  Single wiper and shaved out side lights😍😍😍  . Nice 👍👍
Dakazman

Uk spec had single wiper and no federal side markers at the front or rear corners.
Title: Re: NEW MEMBER- CHESHIRE with an engine question
Post by: literarymadness on Friday,February 26, 2021, 04:56:39 PM
Looks stunning in that color. I'm a big fan of any Europa in a rare or unique color.
Title: Re: NEW MEMBER- CHESHIRE with an engine question
Post by: Taggart on Saturday,February 27, 2021, 11:39:43 AM
Took the car for a good run today. The water level settled down at half way up the swirl pot so my mind is at rest, thanks.
Fitted a heater cable and pedal rubbers- think I will put a spot of glue on them as they are a bit loose. Changed the gearlever knob as it had the wrong pattern on it- TC I think and a bit confusing when I first drove the car.

Got a thumbs up from an MGB and Reliant Robin drivers on the 10 mile trip. The good weather has brought them out.

Totally chuffed with the car.

I will take the advice from JB and torque the head bolts and check the valve clearances as it is a bit tapetty.

The colour by the way is Laystall Green which I understand was a Lotus Racing colour in 1960`s, in real life it is a bit less Kermit the Frog and has grown on me.

Taggart
Title: Re: NEW MEMBER- CHESHIRE with an engine question
Post by: BDA on Saturday,February 27, 2021, 11:55:44 AM
Glad to hear the weather is moderating over there and things went well!  :beerchug:
Title: Re: NEW MEMBER- CHESHIRE with an engine question
Post by: Lou Drozdowski on Saturday,February 27, 2021, 12:13:50 PM
Looks stunning in that color. I'm a big fan of any Europa in a rare or unique color.

Taggart...Lovely color just lovely, good luck!