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Title: solex to weber linkage
Post by: califkid_66 on Tuesday,August 18, 2020, 07:25:43 AM
that’s it everything was running fine now the solex is acting up
so i decided to try the weber and the car never ran so good
my problem is the linkage solex is push weber is pull
for those who run weber downdraft how did you set up your linkage
thanks!
Title: Re: solex to weber linkage
Post by: Sandyman on Tuesday,August 18, 2020, 07:40:16 AM
Pages 16 to 18 on my rebuilt journey show what I did to install a Weber.
Title: Re: solex to weber linkage
Post by: califkid_66 on Tuesday,August 18, 2020, 08:58:39 AM
that is a lot of fabrication must work really nice
thanks for your help
Title: Re: solex to weber linkage
Post by: Sandyman on Tuesday,August 18, 2020, 11:14:20 AM
I did it that way so the primary port was away from the block. Less heat from the exhaust manifold that way. So far it works great.
Title: Re: solex to weber linkage
Post by: califkid_66 on Tuesday,August 18, 2020, 04:28:31 PM
i tried to simplify didn’t work was binding in first pictures
so i tried even simpler just need to figure a way to connect wire to ball
Title: Re: solex to weber linkage
Post by: jbcollier on Tuesday,August 18, 2020, 05:06:55 PM
That should work but I would use thicker steel for the bracket, at least 1/8".  Try to make it out of one piece as well.  Lee Valley sells a nice metal bending tool:

https://www.leevalley.com/en-ca/shop/tools/workshop/workbenches/vises/32011-veritas-metal-bender?item=50K0801

Cheap and it works well.
Title: Re: solex to weber linkage
Post by: califkid_66 on Tuesday,August 18, 2020, 06:21:13 PM
thank i was just trying to figure out a way to connect the weber i like the last picture but im gonna make another bracket that attaches to the two carburetor bolts not only one and i got to figure a return spring where and how to install it i got some equipment at home so i can fabricate
but for now i discovered another problem my cable is not sliding properly its all little wires together but one seems to have been cut and is preventing a smooth movement maybe i can replace only the wire not the complete cable
Title: Re: solex to weber linkage
Post by: jbcollier on Tuesday,August 18, 2020, 10:19:21 PM
You can buy bulk, teflon lined, 5mm brake cable outer housing at your local bike store.  Get some matching ferrules for the ends as well.  If you don't have the proper parrot's beak cutters, use a file or grinding disc to make the cut ends square.  I use VW type 2 throttle cables for the inner.  They have a kinked end the works well and they are more than long enough.  I got mine from www.cip1.ca.  Cheap and cheerful and you can also get very useful things like 11mm hex, 8mm thread, brass, deep hex nuts as well.
Title: Re: solex to weber linkage
Post by: califkid_66 on Thursday,August 20, 2020, 03:33:04 AM
when you say get matching ferrules do you mean  the end that attaches to the accelerator pedal
where do you get yours at a bike shop or on the online site you gave me
thanks
Title: Re: solex to weber linkage
Post by: jbcollier on Thursday,August 20, 2020, 05:47:02 AM
Ferrules are "end-caps" for the outer housing or an end for the inner cable.  I'm talking about the outer housing.  They look like this:

(https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTAwMVgxMDAx/z/6b8AAOSwkKJdSRii/$_10.JPG)

Or, this:

(https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/e6217ee9-7a2c-446f-a4d7-c2857cc32033_1.3219320c79dcf786533da079c5ecbdd0.jpeg)

The inner cable should have a bent end to fit into the hole in the throttle pedal.  The VW one looks like this:

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Xx7N_f6rRbk/WAdg6zINs1I/AAAAAAAAFi0/5zjcWmfu8Mwff_uqCW2NEldGTL9iZbh8QCLcB/s1600/20161015_124538.jpg)

Title: Re: solex to weber linkage
Post by: califkid_66 on Thursday,August 20, 2020, 07:14:23 AM
so you use the cable as is i thought you where using only the cable and changing the adapter at the end the cable i saw on the site looks more like a hook
i was trying to find an fitting like the one in the picture
so it’s use the vw type 2 cable as is plus outer housing from bike shop
Title: Re: solex to weber linkage
Post by: GavinT on Thursday,August 20, 2020, 09:48:06 AM
i was trying to find an fitting like the one in the picture

G'day califkid,

Replaced mine with a Mazda Bongo van (F1000) cable.
A very nicely constructed cable complete with rubber bellows and decent end fittings.
Silky smooth and not expensive.

https://www.amazon.com.au/Genuine-Mazda-Accelerator-Throttle-0706-41-660/dp/B07HBMTSJB



Title: Re: solex to weber linkage
Post by: califkid_66 on Thursday,August 20, 2020, 12:23:23 PM
wow nice but it’s currently unavailable just to bad
i called a vw dealer in my area and they don’t have the vw type 2 wire have to go online and went to a bike shop he said my wire won't fit in is outer housing he said it was 5 mm but you couldn’t see the hole in the end
the solution he proposed was ordering a tandem bike brake cable comes complete except for the fittings at the ends
he said my outer housing was ok i should just go to the hardware store and buy some steel wire
im gonna try another bike shop
Title: Re: solex to weber linkage
Post by: jbcollier on Thursday,August 20, 2020, 02:34:38 PM
Yeesh, no kidding.

VW dealers won't have anything for an air-cooled van.  Pretty much have to buy over the wire.
Title: Re: solex to weber linkage
Post by: califkid_66 on Thursday,August 20, 2020, 03:05:02 PM
 ya no kidding this is getting ridiculous
one last question does the type 2 vw cable fit in the original housing
cause i would just order the cable and be done with it
Title: Re: solex to weber linkage
Post by: jbcollier on Thursday,August 20, 2020, 04:43:02 PM
Should.  It's listed as a replacement in the knowledgebase.  Do try to get lined housing.  It makes a huge difference -- bearing in mind you have to keep it away from exhaust heat though as the liner can melt and glue everything together.
Title: Re: solex to weber linkage
Post by: califkid_66 on Thursday,August 20, 2020, 04:56:57 PM
sorry to bother you again JB but i went on the site and could not find vw type 2 i looked at the pictures and the only ones that look like the one in your picture is from a 73 bus or a beetle the other ones have a round hook instead of the kink do you know witch one i should order
thank again for your help
Title: Re: solex to weber linkage
Post by: jbcollier on Thursday,August 20, 2020, 05:42:00 PM
This is the one I used:

https://www.cip1.ca/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=VWC%2D211%2D721%2D555%2DC
Title: Re: solex to weber linkage
Post by: califkid_66 on Thursday,August 20, 2020, 06:57:30 PM
thanks i just ordered it !
should get it in 3 to 5 days
that should give me enough time to fabricate a decent bracket for my weber
thanks again for your help
Title: Re: solex to weber linkage
Post by: califkid_66 on Sunday,August 23, 2020, 06:53:35 PM
while i am waiting for part i went to another bike store and got a tandem bike brake cable
i cut the front and joined it to the europa bracket with a bolt that was holding a brake cable on a bike
for the back since my carb is pull not push i flipped the pivot upside down and turned it 190 degrees
i put the spring on the side where the wire was and cut the part where you put the return spring and drilled a hole to put the cable locking bolt hard to explain but the pictures speek for themselves
when i will recieve my wire i can just replace this one no problem
Title: Re: solex to weber linkage
Post by: jbcollier on Monday,August 24, 2020, 01:39:59 PM
Your work at the carb looks good, very good.  The other end?  A wee bit low-tech, but, it works!
Title: Re: solex to weber linkage
Post by: califkid_66 on Monday,August 24, 2020, 02:55:43 PM

thanks for the compliment 
ya i was trying to keep in the spirit of lotus
keeping it simple and light  im waiting on the vw cable but for now this works great

Title: Re: solex to weber linkage
Post by: Gmg31 on Saturday,August 29, 2020, 06:48:52 AM
My local Weber specialist made this bracket for mine.
Title: Re: solex to weber linkage
Post by: jbcollier on Saturday,August 29, 2020, 07:09:09 AM
Lots of brackets and adapters available for the DCOE/IDA carbs.  Not much for the DGVs.