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Title: Obscurious Unobtainia Oddie
Post by: jbcollier on Thursday,June 04, 2020, 11:15:58 AM

Please post photos of ORIGINAL, early, S1 oddie pins here.

It is my understanding that some came with key-locks and some had the "wing" style grip.  Perhaps the front had the key lock while the rears the wing grip?

I bought these "reproductions" that were supposedly based on the originals (less locks and wings).  I plan on silver-soldering "wing grips" to them.

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Lotus-Europa/i-SQW2KBg/0/b6c9dc74/X2/IMG_3701_heic-X2.jpg)

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Lotus-Europa/i-Z7dBXpg/0/77347a19/X2/IMG_3700_heic-X2.jpg)

Title: Re: Obscurious Unobtainia Oddie
Post by: jbcollier on Thursday,June 04, 2020, 11:24:56 AM

http://www.lotus-europa.com/manuals/s1parts/b/b1.htm

The parts manual shows different pins front and rear, and the (small) illustrations seem to indicate the fronts had locks while the rears had wing grips.

(http://www.lotus-europa.com/manuals/s1parts/b/B1.gif)

Title: Re: Obscurious Unobtainia Oddie
Post by: jbcollier on Thursday,June 04, 2020, 11:27:44 AM

From an earlier thread:

(http://www.lotuseuropa.org/LotusForum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3257.0;attach=23296;image)

Possible confirmation that the fronts had locks while the rears had wing grips.

Title: Re: Obscurious Unobtainia Oddie
Post by: jbcollier on Thursday,June 04, 2020, 11:30:15 AM

From an earlier thread:

Oddie pins from a 47

(https://up.picr.de/36639481lp.jpg)

(https://up.picr.de/36639482kg.jpg)

These are more like the Oddie pins available for British motorcycles.

Title: Re: Obscurious Unobtainia Oddie
Post by: jbcollier on Saturday,June 06, 2020, 05:20:56 PM

Photos of original plates, pins and locks from the groups IO list:

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Lotus-Europa/i-JpR234k/0/31bd4864/O/IMG_0795.jpg)

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Lotus-Europa/i-pQXCRxJ/0/044e4d60/X2/IMG_0793-X2.jpg)

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Lotus-Europa/i-LSjSRTx/0/e00112c8/X2/IMG_0794-X2.jpg)

Title: Re: Obscurious Unobtainia Oddie
Post by: jbcollier on Saturday,June 06, 2020, 05:25:53 PM

The locks are standard short cabinet locks you can pick up from a hardware store.  The oddie pins have a collar that is pinned to the lock cylinder.

Title: Re: Obscurious Unobtainia Oddie
Post by: AMV 410H on Tuesday,June 09, 2020, 01:11:14 AM

Thanks for this John, excellent information. I had been looking at methods for securing the covers. I noticed that Oddie plates were available at Europa Engineering but their picture seems to show an Advel pip pin rather than an Oddie stud.
Regards Paul

Title: Re: Obscurious Unobtainia Oddie
Post by: jbcollier on Tuesday,June 09, 2020, 06:29:59 AM

They are shown in their online catalog but haven't been available for years.  Same with Kelvedon and others.  Enquires all receive the same "tool is broken" reply.

Title: Re: Obscurious Unobtainia Oddie
Post by: surfguitar58 on Tuesday,June 09, 2020, 12:21:48 PM

It kills me that these were never offered in stainless.
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