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Lotus Europa Forums => Garage => Topic started by: Broadside on Wednesday,September 25, 2019, 11:36:29 AM
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Hello, I've just purchased a '69 part restored S2 in very standard form. I thought it would be a good idea to join a forum as I'm sure I will have plenty of queries on the way, and I'm sure there will be plenty of you who have seen it all before!
It's probably going to be a long term project that will have to fit in around paying work!
I also run an extremely modern S2 Elise at just 17 years old :)
Regards
Graham
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:Welcome: Broadside!
Several people on this forum are either in the midst of an S2 restoration or have finished one already. You're in good company here! We'd love to see pictures of your new baby! You might even want to start a thread about your restoration!
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:Welcome: I am in the middle of a chassis replacement restoration of a 70 S2. This is an invaluable site. The knowledge base here is awesome. We love pictures. Good luck with your car.
Sandy
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Ok, I'm much better with spanners than computers so I've attempted to resize the only couple of photo's I have so far, lets see if it works...........
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Pictures are great. What do you figure she needs? Is white the original colour? What is the serial number?
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:Welcome:
The Europa of course is the Godfather of your Elise :beerchug:
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Hi and :Welcome: Graham,
That doesn't look a bad start to me, a couple of weekends and you'll be heading off to the country for picnics....
There's quite a few S2 owners on here so I'm sure you'll get plenty of help if you need something that's puzzling you, and we've all been there. If you're not up to speed on the cars there's plenty of online info with links from this forum. There's also a traditional newsgroup on Yahoo which operates something called "knowledgebase" which is a database of their posts going back years, so most things have been covered at least once !
Brian
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:Welcome:
Is most of the mechanical work done? - bodywork and interior left to do? - Just guessing from the pics?!
Jon
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Thanks all for your welcomes and comments. To answer your questions, its mechanically mostly restored, its mainly body and interior work that needs doing, probably needs the 'dry build' completing before removing body again for paint. It is Red (currently mostly in primer) s/n 1750.
Most the parts are there, many new old stock parts, I know I need a fuel tank, carpets and screen rubbers, and no doubt other bits and bobs but generally looks very complete.
I'm sure I could complete it fairly quickly if I could devote time to it but unfortunately I have to do the jobs that pay first, so it may have to sit for a while, but its a nice thing to have sat in the workshop and always a good talking point!
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:Welcome:
Is most of the mechanical work done? - bodywork and interior left to do? - Just guessing from the pics?!
Jon
You're pretty much spot on there Jon.
What series do you run your Europa in?
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:Welcome:
Is most of the mechanical work done? - bodywork and interior left to do? - Just guessing from the pics?!
Jon
You're pretty much spot on there Jon.
What series do you run your Europa in?
Not a serious amount left to do then really, obviously you will want to check over all that has already been done but there isn't a huge amount to them and I'm sure you have realised that they are pretty easy to work on. - keeping it standard?
I used to run in the BARC NW Sports and Saloons Championship (has had various sponsors over the years giving it different names!) which I think is currently called the 'CNC Heads Sports and Saloons Championship' - retired my Europa from racing a few years ago now and I put it back on the road this year (thread in members cars).
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:Welcome: Broadside.
You came to the right place. From the looks of it you have a straight , semi complete car.
Bumpers, headlights, windows come with it? I really love the silencer extension.🤣 or did you just kick it in the garage? What engine do you have? Carbs? Gearbox?
Lotus-Europa.com / documents is an excellent place for information. Great reading of online parts and workshop manuals, and wiring schematics. You can also sign up and register your cars vin number.
Enjoy yourself here and ask questions. They usually get answered quickly. I am doing one of those S2 frame off builds in the garage section. 0453R .😀. Post often, it’s your journey! You’ll enjoy reading it in the future.
Dakazman
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:Welcome:
Hello Graham :coolpic:
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Hi Graham,
Nice project. Thanks for sharing the pictures. The steel wheels look in great condition. Mine has stalled at the moment. My Elan required immediate attention and the summer has been busy at work. Back to it soon though.
Regards,
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:Welcome: Graham!
Good luck with your very fine looking S2. Very knowledgeable crew in this forum, very supportive and friendly. I've learned a lot in the 2 years I've been here.
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Tom (aka Surfguitar58)
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:Welcome:
Great group of guys here. Couldn't have completed my 3 year restoration without them!
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Welcome to the forum, Graham. That looks like a fine project (and a couple cool Minis lurking in the background). You've found the right place to assist you with your restoration. Cheers :beerchug:
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:Welcome: Broadside.
You came to the right place. From the looks of it you have a straight , semi complete car.
Bumpers, headlights, windows come with it? I really love the silencer extension.🤣 or did you just kick it in the garage? What engine do you have? Carbs? Gearbox?
Lotus-Europa.com / documents is an excellent place for information. Great reading of online parts and workshop manuals, and wiring schematics. You can also sign up and register your cars vin number.
Enjoy yourself here and ask questions. They usually get answered quickly. I am doing one of those S2 frame off builds in the garage section. 0453R .😀. Post often, it’s your journey! You’ll enjoy reading it in the future.
Dakazman
Hi Dakazman, its all standard, 1470 renault, but I do have Else manifolds with it and yes I also have the bumpers, lights, glass etc and its mostly new old stock or refurbished stuff, so a lot of the hard work has been done already.
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Lol
I like the sneaker in the exhaust.
It could be an optical illusion...
Dakazman
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Just deleting emails and I found one from the previous owner of the chassis restoration work he'd done, photo's date from 2015 so its not so shiny now but I'm sure it will all clean up again :)
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That looks like a great start! Very nicely done! Check the lower fulcrum pins in the front. It doesn't look like the nylon locking ring is engaged on the threads of the pin. If you don't have enough thread to fully engage the nylon (ideally there should be at least a couple of threads exposed), get some jet-nuts. They are all steel half height lock nuts that can be reused indefinitely. Jet nuts are also great for your exhaust manifold, too. You can usually get them art aircraft supply outlets like Aircraft Spruce (https://www.aircraftspruce.com/) but the only place I've seen that has them in 1/2" for your lower fulcrum pin is Pegasus Auto Racing Supplies (https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productselection.asp?Product=MS21042).
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Graham, great Chassis and motor. The first look at your picture of the front end I thought "OMG the steering is on the wrong side!" But then I saw that you are on the "Right" side of the pond. All good now.
Sandy
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Oops! Well, I made the assumption that you were on our side of the pond, Broadside. Sorry, but if you need jet nuts, you should be able to get them or their equivalent in Merry Ole England.
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That looks like a great start! Very nicely done! Check the lower fulcrum pins in the front. It doesn't look like the nylon locking ring is engaged on the threads of the pin. If you don't have enough thread to fully engage the nylon (ideally there should be at least a couple of threads exposed), get some jet-nuts. They are all steel half height lock nuts that can be reused indefinitely. Jet nuts are also great for your exhaust manifold, too. You can usually get them art aircraft supply outlets like Aircraft Spruce (https://www.aircraftspruce.com/) but the only place I've seen that has them in 1/2" for your lower fulcrum pin is Pegasus Auto Racing Supplies (https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productselection.asp?Product=MS21042).
Well spotted!, I haven't even started to look round it yet. I will be going through the whole thing, I dont like those deep self locking flange nuts personally so they will be replaced with something more suitable. I may even treat it to some K nuts! (I build race cars for a living so I have access to proper imperial fasteners :))
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Graham, great Chassis and motor. The first look at your picture of the front end I thought "OMG the steering is on the wrong side!" But then I saw that you are on the "Right" side of the pond. All good now.
Sandy
I'm not sure we are the right side of the pond anymore!! any room over there?? :D
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Tonnes of room here. How cold do you like it? Might be a little less confusing with me north of the 49th. :)
Sandy
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Probably only stunted together at the time the pic was taken but worth checking that the handbrake cable is through the other slot at the front of the chassis - in the pic it’s routed through the wrong one and hooked onto the translator which will make it rub on the chassis and not move smoothly.
Obviously, since that pic was taken the body has been put in place so the translator would have been removed to do that but if it’s been put back in place to retain the cable end from falling back inside the chassis then it’s worth checking?
Looks like someone has done a nice job so far though, look forwards to seeing it on the road!
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I meant to say that the stainless transfer pipes are very cool! :beerchug:
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Broadside,
Nice starting point! Very nice roller . I’m jealous 😀😀 Thanks for the handbrake photo, I was wondering where it came up . Thanks JR, for catching it and elaborating on the placement. It was on my to-do list, but reading the workshop manual gets boring when there are twenty other items to keep the build proceeding.
Dakazman
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...I build race cars for a living ...
So, just another boring desk job?
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Probably only stunted together at the time the pic was taken but worth checking that the handbrake cable is through the other slot at the front of the chassis - in the pic it’s routed through the wrong one and hooked onto the translator which will make it rub on the chassis and not move smoothly.
Obviously, since that pic was taken the body has been put in place so the translator would have been removed to do that but if it’s been put back in place to retain the cable end from falling back inside the chassis then it’s worth checking?
Looks like someone has done a nice job so far though, look forwards to seeing it on the road!
Thanks for that, I'll make sure I check that when I start work on it - which may be a while yet as my workshop is jammed full at the moment and I dont want to start until I can spread everything out to asses it all
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I meant to say that the stainless transfer pipes are very cool! :beerchug:
Mmmmm.... I haven't looked at them yet but they ought to be ali really - weight!!! and they need the ends rolling. I can see me taking it all to pieces again!!
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...I build race cars for a living ...
So, just another boring desk job?
Well I'm only at the bottom end really but I'm happy in my work and it beats doing a proper job :beerchug:
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Mmmmm.... I haven't looked at them yet but they ought to be ali really - weight!!! and they need the ends rolling. I can see me taking it all to pieces again!!
If you roll the ends, you may not be able to get them into or out of the frame. I've never seen any that had been rolled and I've never heard of a problem. Save your self some time and hassle.