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Title: Remote brake servo fitting.
Post by: Gmg31 on Saturday,April 28, 2018, 07:47:37 AM
I’ve just installed a remote brake servo and the moment I start my engine the brakes come on and the wheels a locked. I’ve connected pipe from the master cylinder to the side of the servo and the pipe from the end of the servo to the 4 branch union. Is it possible I’ve done this the wrong way round?
Title: Re: Remote brake servo fitting.
Post by: Pfreen on Saturday,April 28, 2018, 08:33:19 AM
I assume you have a Lockheed booster.  If so, you have it plumbed correctly.  It would seem the air valve or air valve piston is stuck.

I hope the diagram helps.
Title: Re: Remote brake servo fitting.
Post by: 4129R on Saturday,April 28, 2018, 08:39:13 AM
Do the brakes release if you disconnect the rubber suction pipe from the inlet manifold?
Title: Re: Remote brake servo fitting.
Post by: shortjedi on Saturday,April 28, 2018, 08:44:56 AM
I seem to remember there is supposed to be locking device fitted to the filter/ valve for shipping. Mine didn't have one.  Be careful when removing the plastic cap, there is a spring inside.
Title: Re: Remote brake servo fitting.
Post by: jbcollier on Saturday,April 28, 2018, 09:13:59 AM
Use the diagram above to see which way the pipes are fitted.  Usually fitting them backwards means no brakes.

Is this a new or rebuilt booster?
Title: Re: Remote brake servo fitting.
Post by: Gmg31 on Saturday,April 28, 2018, 09:37:10 AM
It a second hand one. I may have made an error in trying to save a few pounds. Duh
Title: Re: Remote brake servo fitting.
Post by: jbcollier on Saturday,April 28, 2018, 05:18:02 PM
I have overhauled a few boosters (10 or so?).  I have also fixed other people's overhauls.  One chap fit a valve backwards so the booster actually pushed back rather than assisted.  Now that was a firm, but remarkably ineffective, pedal.  They eat up a lot of time to overhaul so we got to the point of only fitting new ones.  It was much cheaper than all the work that is involved in overhauling a 40+ year old original.
Title: Re: Remote brake servo fitting.
Post by: Gmg31 on Sunday,April 29, 2018, 01:47:26 AM
Thanks JB. I’ll have a look at that valve before I decide what to do. Clearly the vacuum part is working well so I don’t want to make a hasty decision.
Title: Re: Remote brake servo fitting.
Post by: Gmg31 on Tuesday,May 01, 2018, 09:09:37 AM
I took the cap off the top of the valve. The valve doesn’t come out so I’m assuming it can’t be upside down. However within the cap was a plastic collar which, as far as I can see would only serve to block any escaping air. Not sure if it’s meant to be there.
Title: Re: Remote brake servo fitting.
Post by: jbcollier on Tuesday,May 01, 2018, 11:41:44 AM
When you apply the brakes, fluid pressure pushes the valve up shutting off engine vacuum and allowing atmospheric pressure in.  The "filter" keeps muck from getting in.
Title: Re: Remote brake servo fitting.
Post by: Gmg31 on Tuesday,May 01, 2018, 02:33:32 PM
In the photo it looks like a soft felt filter but it’s actually hard plastic.  I’m guessing this is my most likely problem.
Title: Re: Remote brake servo fitting.
Post by: jbcollier on Tuesday,May 01, 2018, 02:40:53 PM
Nope, sounds right.